[Lab] M70 tonight

[Darcy Whyte]

I'm glad the meeting was a success.

Dave wasn't invited to the AGM. If people don't know about stuff then it's
not a good tool. Was the AGM announced outside of sending invites out to a
private list?

That's good to know that there's a 5 percent rule. Has that been in play
for the past years?

How may members are there? Nobody really knows who is a member. The member
list at http://artengine.ca/community/members-en.php doesn't seem to be a
good reflection of membership. Or is it?

To know if there are 5% of members interested in something the members need
to be able to find each other.




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On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Remco Volmer <programming at artengine.ca>
wrote:

> Darcy: you and Dave claim to have no agency in the way Artengine conducts
> its activities. This is simply not true. Those who attended the AGM last
> night engaged in a positive and constructive debate about the new
> non-profit act and the new bylaws, and the consequences for membership.
> Their input had a direct effect on the final document that's submitted to
> Industry Canada. From the meeting it also became clear that there are more
> issues to explore further, and we will be soliciting direct feedback from
> the whole Artengine community, both membership and lablist. The AGM is a
> prime platform to get involved and raise issues that you care about,
> and you opted not to.
>
> Furthermore, the board is obligated to call a meeting on any topic at any
> time upon request by 5% of the membership, which amounts to 4 people. So if
> there is any issue that you and 3 other members feel strongly about, you
> can call a membership meeting. Finally, like Andrew says, both Ryan and
> myself are very responsive to issues raised directly with us, as you know
> from experience. So please don't make it sound as if there is no way to
> have a say in the affairs of the organization. If you genuinely want to
> participate in the process, by all means use the tools of engagement that
> are open to you.
>
>
> Remco Volmer
> Managing Director
>
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>
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Darcy Whyte <darcy at inventorartist.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Keep in mind that not everybody knew about the ADM or may not have felt
>> welcome (those who did not receive an invite for instance).
>>
>> They need somewhere to meet. We also had people that came to attend
>> modlab to use things like the soldering iron but didn't feel comfortable of
>> course.. some people were lookig forward to modlab too...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Darcy Whyte
>>
>> Art+ inventorArtist.com <http://inventorartist.com/> | Aviation
>> rubber-power.com
>> Contact: darcy at inventorArtist.com | 613-563-3634 by appointment (no text)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Andrew O'Malley <aomalley at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Fair enough, it's an ongoing challenge for an organisation to engage its
>>> members, a lengthy discussion most likely ... but actively encouraging
>>> people to avoid the agm -- on one of the organisation's very mailing lists
>>> -- isn't constructive since the agm is something legally required to be
>>> held by the organisation.
>>>
>>> I would suggest those interested in getting involved strike up a convo
>>> w/ one of the staff members.
>>>
>>> I'm not against people talking about membership here, makes sense
>>> actually, but would rather see it in a constructive manner.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Darcy Whyte <darcy at inventorartist.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think people want to be involved and in the know but the're no path
>>>> for that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Darcy Whyte
>>>>
>>>> Art+ inventorArtist.com <http://inventorartist.com/> | Aviation
>>>> rubber-power.com
>>>> Contact: darcy at inventorArtist.com | 613-563-3634 by appointment (no
>>>> text)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Andrew O'Malley <aomalley at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wow, a disappointing way to hear people talking about the very
>>>>> organisation that provides the free, founding space for the Modlab to meet
>>>>> in . . .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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