<div dir="ltr"><div>I'm glad the meeting was a success. </div><div><br></div><div>Dave wasn't invited to the AGM. If people don't know about stuff then it's not a good tool. Was the AGM announced outside of sending invites out to a private list?</div><div><br></div>That's good to know that there's a 5 percent rule. Has that been in play for the past years?<div><br></div><div>How may members are there? Nobody really knows who is a member. The member list at <a href="http://artengine.ca/community/members-en.php">http://artengine.ca/community/members-en.php</a> doesn't seem to be a good reflection of membership. Or is it?</div><div><br></div><div>To know if there are 5% of members interested in something the members need to be able to find each other. </div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div><div><br></div><div><div>--</div><div>Darcy Whyte</div><div><br></div><div>Art+ <a href="http://inventorartist.com/" target="_blank">inventorArtist.com</a> | Aviation <a href="http://rubber-power.com/" target="_blank">rubber-power.com</a></div><div>Contact: <a href="mailto:darcy@inventorArtist.com" target="_blank">darcy@inventorArtist.com</a> | 613-563-3634 by appointment (no text)</div></div></div><div><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Remco Volmer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:programming@artengine.ca" target="_blank">programming@artengine.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Darcy: you and Dave claim to have no agency in the way Artengine conducts its activities. This is simply not true. Those who attended the AGM last night engaged in a positive and constructive debate about the new non-profit act and the new bylaws, and the consequences for membership. Their input had a direct effect on the final document that's submitted to Industry Canada. From the meeting it also became clear that there are more issues to explore further, and we will be soliciting direct feedback from the whole Artengine community, both membership and lablist. The AGM is a prime platform to get involved and raise issues that you care about, and you opted not to. <div><br></div><div>Furthermore, the board is obligated to call a meeting on any topic at any time upon request by 5% of the membership, which amounts to 4 people. So if there is any issue that you and 3 other members feel strongly about, you can call a membership meeting. Finally, like Andrew says, both Ryan and myself are very responsive to issues raised directly with us, as you know from experience. So please don't make it sound as if there is no way to have a say in the affairs of the organization. If you genuinely want to participate in the process, by all means use the tools of engagement that are open to you. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333339691162px">Remco Volmer </div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333339691162px"><span>Managing</span> <span>Director</span></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333339691162px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333339691162px"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,'Slate Pro',sans-serif;font-size:medium">--</span><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333339691162px"><div style="font-size:13.3333339691162px"><div style="font-size:13.3333339691162px">Artengine</div><div style="font-size:13.3333339691162px">2 Daly Ave. Ottawa, ON</div><div style="font-size:13.3333339691162px">K1N 6E2 <a href="tel:613.686.1941" value="+16136861941" target="_blank">613.686.1941</a></div></div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Darcy Whyte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:darcy@inventorartist.com" target="_blank">darcy@inventorartist.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Keep in mind that not everybody knew about the ADM or may not have felt welcome (those who did not receive an invite for instance). <div><br></div><div>They need somewhere to meet. We also had people that came to attend modlab to use things like the soldering iron but didn't feel comfortable of course.. some people were lookig forward to modlab too...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div><div><br></div><div><div>--</div><div>Darcy Whyte</div><div><br></div><div>Art+ <a href="http://inventorartist.com/" target="_blank">inventorArtist.com</a> | Aviation <a href="http://rubber-power.com/" target="_blank">rubber-power.com</a></div><div>Contact: <a href="mailto:darcy@inventorArtist.com" target="_blank">darcy@inventorArtist.com</a> | <a href="tel:613-563-3634" value="+16135633634" target="_blank">613-563-3634</a> by appointment (no text)</div></div></div><div><br></div></div></div>
<br></span><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Andrew O'Malley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aomalley@gmail.com" target="_blank">aomalley@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Fair enough, it's an ongoing challenge for an organisation to engage its members, a lengthy discussion most likely ... but actively encouraging people to avoid the agm -- on one of the organisation's very mailing lists -- isn't constructive since the agm is something legally required to be held by the organisation. <br><br>I would suggest those interested in getting involved strike up a convo w/ one of the staff members.<div><br></div><div>I'm not against people talking about membership here, makes sense actually, but would rather see it in a constructive manner.</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Darcy Whyte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:darcy@inventorartist.com" target="_blank">darcy@inventorartist.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I think people want to be involved and in the know but the're no path for that.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div><div><br></div><div><div>--</div><div>Darcy Whyte</div><div><br></div><div>Art+ <a href="http://inventorartist.com/" target="_blank">inventorArtist.com</a> | Aviation <a href="http://rubber-power.com/" target="_blank">rubber-power.com</a></div><div>Contact: <a href="mailto:darcy@inventorArtist.com" target="_blank">darcy@inventorArtist.com</a> | <a href="tel:613-563-3634" value="+16135633634" target="_blank">613-563-3634</a> by appointment (no text)</div></div></div><div><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Andrew O'Malley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aomalley@gmail.com" target="_blank">aomalley@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><div dir="ltr">Wow, a disappointing way to hear people talking about the very organisation that provides the free, founding space for the Modlab to meet in . . .<div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div></div></div>
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