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hello everyone thank you so much for joining me today my name is sarah huckman and i am the

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art rental and sales associate at the art gallery of alberta we welcome you to our meet the artist series a part of aga live

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here at the gallery we embrace the teachings of tatewa a kree phrase meaning welcome there is

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room in our house even the virtual one everyone is welcome i am delighted to be your host for this

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hour joining me today is artist emmanuel bara laila before we dive into the subject i’d like

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to highlight that this is an interactive event and we’d like to hear from you you are welcome to use the chat window

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on the side screen to share your comments as we discuss with the manual if any questions get unnoticed or

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unanswered at the time please know that we will review all unanswered questions before we wrap up today’s event

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artist emmanuel alila was born in juba sudan in 1972 at the age of 14 he left juba during

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civilian war in sudan and moved to khartoum the capital city of sudan

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then he studied fine arts and graphic design at the sudan institute of fine art

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he studied drama and photography as well his career has extended to theater

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performance graphic design teaching and directing the conceptual

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themes behind and throughout his journey of three-body studies is to employ understanding and

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deliver to deliver the truth in 1999 he moved to cairo egypt where he

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began teaching fine art emmanuel has exhibited internationally throughout his artistic

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career sharing his sudanese heritage around the world he was represented by the townhouse art gallery in egypt as well

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emmanuel immigrated to canada in 2005 to edmonton alberta with his family

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on his artistic journey in edmonton he was the recipient of the arts and culture award for recognizing immigrant success and

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excellence in 2008 from the edmonton arts council and is now represented

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at the art rental and sales gallery at the art gallery of alberta please take this time with me to give a

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warm welcome to our august artist emmanuel baralila

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hello hello [Music]

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good evening ladies and gentlemen thank you guys for being to

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together us in the situation went through the cover 19 and i’m sure we missed a

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lot of things but this me man i’m so happy and really happy for

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having this kind of competition around this and i don’t know how to give thanks to

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sarah and for the adventure we really make our society become more active

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to be involved from being active talking and each one we don’t see ourselves

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physically but even this one is all the same but i’m really i’m happy for being there

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today with you guys and thank you sarah thank you for everything oh thanks daniel that’s so

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sweet yeah i’m so happy that we got to uh connect and do this event even though we can’t

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be in the same room um we’re not wearing face masks so that’s nice i can see your beautiful smile

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and you can chat about uh your artistic career and uh all of your

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art projects that you’re working on and everything so yeah tell us a little bit about

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uh maybe how you started in art how did you find that you wanted to be an artist

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it’s a good question i don’t know where to start but

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where i came from this way i become i love art because our life there is more artistic like

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everything is art everyone no one gonna go like buy clothes from the store no you want to

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get it close you got to tell her they tell us take a measurement and make for your clothes like we don’t have

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something say brand new you go to store like walmart no no we don’t have those so everything here is small physically

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and we made it yeah yeah so our life is very artistic

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and i start the schools called june warden yuba modern school and one of the english schools the

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opening in south sudan where this is student i start from there even first class

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like a great one and then what the teachers there they start the

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same the system i can see now in canada like teaching people drawing

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musics even the english they teach you even like the way it doesn’t mean to

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teach you physical english but you learn by yourself in simple ways called modern school but the way i involved in

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classes like drawing painting this kind of stuff and then it’s where i from there i become serious taking that place

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because already i’ve been doing that we don’t have toys in the store you have to make your own toys like you

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make your own choice make your own car you make your own everything you do myself we don’t have tourists in south sudan like here

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so this will make me crave seeing them young right yeah you have to be creative to

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make your own things yeah yeah so from there and plus school i go to and then this is where i learned

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something that there’s something called art and then i start to learn this small way of drawing painting for the day draw

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a mother and mother and father we draw them to say oh let’s look beautiful and give me a hug

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and showing you the way and i’m this attitude just stick to me and from

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there i decide to be an atheist yeah when i move out from south because

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the civilians were making we just get food like once a day

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everything is difficult no school bombing guns around killing and i don’t like

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that to me when i when i feel like when i grow up

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and even my high school i was doing good in heart when i started to do for people writing

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afters for people in english arabic and then they pay me and i able to have some income

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people have some car they want to put some painting on the car we paint with a local color not even

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professional color right the car and then they pay me and then i got the title from people there oh you

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look good after you’re supposed to go to school of course and we’re gonna be at peace oh wow yeah so this is where they always

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started those courses and everyone’s immigrant to the city that’s cartoon right new life yeah yeah and you know

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earlier that that’s uh in in terms of alberta that would be like the difference of edmonton and calgary right yes yeah yeah

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yeah this is exactly like that yeah i moved from calgary to edmonton yeah so the difference is

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gilbert is not more developed like cartoon cut from her favorite thing have a them have electricity have the tv have

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private universities all the everything is there when when i came there even a surprise 24 hours you can see

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electricity working we don’t have that in in dubai but the electricity

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food like you can eat what you want to eat we don’t have that in south sudan you eat what your mom cook

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even if you don’t like that yeah you eat that just no no way you have to eat that one no

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more you cannot get anywhere even but at least if i go to village and then my grandma usually

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they have food for me and we have we go to the farmer’s area you can lot of food mango

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lemon everything is there that in village not in the town right right yeah but there’s a difference this

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is not a different no light there people using their scandals

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nine o’clock everyone’s sleeping no one walking around because you go out you can be bite by snake or some animals will come

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and crack on you so this is why people are eight nine people all inside are sleeping yeah that is different life

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than in city right so yeah so this is where when i come to kartung then i saw like

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a lot of things in and then i went to school called marie’s secondary

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school i really start and i start to go to school and then do exam of the high school diploma

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then i get mine and then i apply to sudan institute but now they change it sudan

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technology sudan of technology they change the name now but before they call it sudan institute

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of fine arts right yeah when i applied it and then the technique in the study

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the class

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how long was the program at the sudan institute almost like three years and then yes

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number four is where i graduate like you have first year second year tattoo

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it’s all you study all art like this culture of drawings and paintings

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and graphic design techie style and trigger design all together you have to understand different fields

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and then from there you have to choose one things but in the end what do you want to specialize on so the last year

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you have to choose one if you if i just become a tech style so i’m going to specify on pakistan

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for one year i’m going to work about that yeah that’s why they do it that way so

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that you get a broad understanding of everything and then you narrow it down yeah that’s really

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interesting yeah this way because first year usually you learn about

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connecting you with the drawings like understand that what is the drawings even the pencil

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it’s one of the master piece of of tools so you can use it to do what

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you ever want to do but you have to know it you have to understand it you have to know how to use it you have to respect it and this

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kind of stuff

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second year you’re gonna go for history art history understanding learning more about punjabi michael angelo ross at least

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you’re gonna go for thirty year you’re gonna go for more psychology things

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that can affect you yeah like a lot of stuff they have to start listening to it here and then after in the end before

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the end and then they’re gonna have something called uh visiting borders will take us from sudan

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to in the end between sudan at the pm asia artists what is the difference between ethiopia and sudan now

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right yeah and then when you see there’ll be different there and then when i drew some landscape about april

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totally different between sudan because council of sudan is different even the three growing sudan is different

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and arthuria is something different you can see it like they have a different three different stone different mountains

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different culture different people even the way they were the way they talk the way they do things and then you have to do that now

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now for you we have one week there you have to do some landscape something interesting to do it and then you do not

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scare we do portraits you put someone sitting in front of you you draw in 10 minutes and those kind of stuff cool so it was like

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you had to be inspired by what you were seeing and you had to produce something right away yeah yeah from different ways

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come from and then we’ll take us to the border between sudan and congo so tell us what’s the difference between now congo and sudan

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and then when you see you’ll see there are a lot of differences you can see they don’t have a monkeys like us but they have the black uh what they call

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the black monkey the regular yeah they have a gorilla not the what we

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have we have a small one smaller types of them yeah but there they have one things gorilla

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they have a different three they have a different environment different people the women’s are different the men’s are different even the way they eat

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they look different and then now as an artist you see the differences and then why just

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work on it now do landscape first and do some portrait from the one you want to draw ladies men or

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just do it for you just to remember that you have some places different than your place

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yeah this is very exciting and this is what we’ve been going through yeah and

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there’s different techniques with with the different things that you see too right because for certain trees

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you probably wouldn’t paint it the same or for monkeys you probably would do something different or yeah that is where

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because when i reach start to do abstract or contemporary art it’s not

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about i want to do that no because i’ve been coming from bottom of doing start with drawings watercolor

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and in watercolor you have so many techniques wait to eat and you have punching water you have a

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lot of way to use watercolor yeah to do portrait with what color and then

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give us sometimes we work with the time this is why i love the time like every person do model and then they give us

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almost we need 20 minutes to escape this person with the pencil if you don’t able to do it and then it’s a

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problem and then just stop you have to do it the first time you no get right to get wrong and

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in the end we have to go out and then do some homework by ourselves yeah bring anyone put down and start to

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do you do the same but take long no we don’t want to bring a time limit of

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drinks and portray within just 10 minutes that means your success today within 30 minutes 40 minutes or

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months because at least doesn’t take long to remove portrait of that and then you have to

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maintain your skill of entrance when when we become success on doing

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portraits with the pencils with the minutes so fast and then we’re moving now

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for the oil watercolor what of color means usually for someone artistic so you use

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watercolor perfectly and then you have to blow our air you can dry your paintings

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and put some on you don’t have to use pencil you have to start right away with the watercolor and then do that and

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blow it first time it’s hot and second hot and then do your homework and keep doing and

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then and then we get into know how to paint with the watercolor easily acrylic you’ve got white and

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black and it’s something not for professional but when you do watercolor just you have three colors

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blue red and an arrow and then you’re gonna produce what do you want just water water has

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become like white color you have to advise you have to understand the paper you have to understand the water yeah

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like a lot of work there and we go through that one and then we move to because we know we

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have a skill we have to do some confess with the color you have to do some landscape also you have to do

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within minutes like sun is going sunset wow pain in this landscape without sun move

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away so much you have to be fast to capture what you see and do in the same

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minutes and within 10 minutes you have to do that things right sun move out because in

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surroundings different than here here sometimes i see sun coming from west from east even i don’t understand

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it but back home sans go one area

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came from uh what you call from east and we’re going to s to west and all of you can see going slowly

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until they go down so yeah you know if you start to do some landscape you know sun

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is moving fast and then they will change even the area where you won’t cut you want to

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take the landscape the sun moving along and then some colors disappearing the trees become more lighting

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you see like you have to compete with the sun before this they move away from the area you’re doing you have to walk so fast and

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get comfortable so from that area this way to get experience of color used

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to and then become like boring doing the same things every day and then they swear

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yeah we’re moving out plus you study books you read books the history of artists why you have a

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technique you have some emergence make him become someone

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have to do something because like plus you know when you read the books you will understand the world of art and why

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people become doing some abstract work for now why people doing now can temporary art these all have a

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reason for this substitution happen to artists and he able to turn himself to something to create something that

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people will love it and this is what’s happening this is why when start from down until we’re

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reaching now we come to state i didn’t know about abstract too much even i study the books

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but when i reach to egypt it’s where things change oh yeah yeah because graphic we don’t

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have so many tools for graphics and so on we do what they depend we do with the pen like graphic pen with

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the ink you do design logos or anything you do my was specialized on commercial i do more

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commercial things i don’t go for for engineering people specialize on

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that in that sweep of those guys they have already tools and they can do that but moving my moving to egypt what

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turned me too much through visual art because of life there become different and egypt’s well educated in that area

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of graphic i go to place of graphic i see they have experience of computer photoshop and a lot of

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oh come on we don’t have that there and then now i stuck yeah to work in that film so it

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means i have to go back and study those right because software’s to understand computer and stuff to do that

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and then for me you know it’s hard for me to do that and just be living their life what’s not easy and then easy for me to tell myself

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from graphic to visual art because what i can do yeah regarding the

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paintings do watercolor i start do that and then this is where

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i’ve been welcomed people love my work people start even just in local area

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yeah and then i have a work with something called joint relief ministry this is under un

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and they was looking for peace to work and help refugees who are artists to support them what they

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teaching them to understand they are and and applied it and then they accept me as a

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director in that area so when i start working there teaching art and then i start to

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understand what i can do now so and then i start applying some galleries

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it’s a egyptian gallery usually they have a system close to canadians like the la they love work of the

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landscape right and this kind of stuff they like those and they like oil color more than watercolor so

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they’re different than we in student we don’t love watercolor more than oil but in egypt they like oil color so like

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free will people work easy you can erase you can fix it like it doesn’t have any problem

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yeah and water is not that forgiving no yeah water cannot fix it you just

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make a mistake and then that is done yeah yeah so we love especially me i

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love this kind of challenge yeah we have a question for

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you emmanuel from jeanette hubka she wants to know what your favorite medium is to use

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watercolor watercolor yep yep because it’s challenging or yeah

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watercolor really they will give you the good results that my results in

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watercolor that what i’ve been having i feel like my age is going more

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like one of them 10 years but on it red piece of art with the watercolor i feel like i have a reward

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but it’s going to go beyond right yeah this is my media like the second one is black and white this

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is the two things i do always even working on experiments of

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working on black and white without even

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enemy of color to be involved but i’m still looking experiment to understand the black and white

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and i’m on it yeah and i love that also yeah and what about oil do you do you

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use oil at all in your in your work no i i use oil uh

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yeah i use oil color when the we have someone called sun bakita one of the

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woman’s she was slave sleeps from south from sudan to america to italy and she become

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assistant church and she become now uh uh sen become a saint now the call center

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okay this is a black woman so they asked us to do some competition about how to paint her life

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so from there and then the priest was italy i remember his name it’s called uh dinner close and he asked

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me emmanuel if you can work with that with your friends i need you to use color because

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this is what we needed for something to to live longer right and this way i would do a

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project and this way i start to use oil color because in marketing we don’t have them too much into them but this is why the reason we didn’t use

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oil too much but this way he he gave us surprise of oil when he

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started to work on on vaquita because her picture when she was

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young and until she grew up didn’t have original pictures so we have to give us pictures and we have to

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imagine it and come with the image oh wow wow yeah so this is where you

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start doing that yeah and then when they see that yeah and then this is where they prove it and

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this where i start to work on oil color because it’s easy to use it

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you can change the way one especially oil color is good because they dry they don’t dry fast

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that’s what i don’t like yeah i like speed but where color is the

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dry easy like will take long to dry and come back and do some finishing

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go back until you finish the painting yeah [Music] typically how how long would it take you

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to to paint does it take you like one full day and you do one

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piece or do you come back to it over time this for for my normal easily

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i went to store to buy some paintings and then i found the paintings there

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doesn’t have a quality that i want because in egypt they have colors beyond anywhere and then i start

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to order my color from egypt i order pikmin pikmin is the original color right before they

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transform them into marketing like put them in acrylic add them wide and just for business

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yeah i i got this one i have to go this original one from eu

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i can order from there this color take with me another four years i don’t have to buy any color

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wow he said i wanna organic like pikmin original so this way i use them and then

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i don’t use my painting is that i don’t do like putting painting in the stance and go

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over and coming coming off when i start to do paintings become some moment in me something come

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to me just to start do some paintings yeah until i will come with the title to do a group of work

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i don’t want to paint one off i have to do group of four when i started i will study for two or three days

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and then that is it and i’ll stop i’m not gonna do any more right yeah because when i do the

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painting i do abstract for reason

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i’ll give you the reason one day back to egypt i was

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doing some african landscape people are dancing people are

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like something more having a beautiful technique with watercolor and people love the technique

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i have but they didn’t laugh what i’m doing right right yeah

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then again i saw i thought the one guy actually i’m saying why do people like that i’m from sudan

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this is the way i don’t bond like that this is what god made me like that i’m like that so what i’m doing i’m doing my culture

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yeah yeah i’m doing my culture i cannot do him because i don’t know about him and then why say i have not do this can

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he do it in africa do you want to come he can in africa not here do something good here

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and i start to fight about that i’m saying this is me like that i cannot change myself i love myself i love what i’m doing

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but against life she’s stuff there to make money from art is more money

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so you have to do what people you have to sell yourself you have to start changing them so this is where i change myself from

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doing what exactly i should do just to make a living and to keep me

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feel amazed to be welcome to the world to welcome to the world you have to come with something what they’re doing so this is

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why i’m telling myself to the abstract just to be welcome to be part of that because emotionally when i have been welcome people

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love what i’m doing and people smile to me hey how are you welcome sit down and then this will give you more energy

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to continue doing paintings and continue doing it but when you do something that people don’t

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and then you feel like you’re boring and become sick so i do my pending within some minutes

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like i start doing my painting large pieces i can do within uh 45

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minutes small pieces i can do within 10 to 20 minutes yeah i have a couple of

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images here uh these two that you produce we have in our art rental and sales inventory um

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and these ones are 18 by 18. so how long do you think took uh do you

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remember how long it took you to do these ones yeah this took me 40 minutes yeah 40 minutes this i call it balance of life

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and something like not 3d what people do means but like inaudible about about

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means never never things die in life anything you do good or bad it’s going

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to be existing no i’m going to see but you can see you did what you did you can see

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what happened to your life and this thing’s going to be going back so again you see the

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paintings if you keep looking carefully you will see like they’re coming from inside and outside like there are layers

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coming on top of them and coming and coming so this is where the balance of our life so again when i end up here

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blue so means this is where me now but if you look deeply you can see like the things going beyond and some of them

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you don’t see because i don’t know you but you know what is that right okay like you know about your life

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what is there but someone know about that yeah so this all the painting i call balance of life

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like everyone knows how to do balance for him life to cover the good and bad he never covered but never go out he’s

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there she only or he can see but no one can see it right yeah i had a few clients look at this

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the other day and they said to me i just want to know what’s under the blue

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yeah i said well i’ll ask emmanuel later i have an interview with him yeah they were so intrigued by the

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amount of detail and in every single stroke of and and the color and then that it’s covered

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with the blue they just thought it was so mysterious so that fits your description really

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really well i think yeah so i call it this technique i call it a

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balance of life so everyone have a secret good or bad only or she can see them but these

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things doesn’t die yeah but someone cannot see that so sometimes someone see like blue people

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see the blue model yeah wanna dip to you and then they’re gonna go deep to what the inside there

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wow that’s really cool yeah so means like uh i take this from i like to

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watch something called uh what they call this movie of the english movie

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yeah come on we’ll

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taboo we have a small box like telephone box right but when you enter inside there it’s a

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big house there i don’t know how it’s how things are the small box right

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right there’s a super meaning yeah yeah they have a different meaning and imagination there are a lot of because

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when they see careful body they talk about history they talk about a lot of things they talk about many

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things but within that box it’s just someone have a good imagination and do that and from that

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movie i started to think the same the movie right in my paintings you can see like just a

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square is small but you see deeply and then you’re gonna be like big world behind

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yeah absolutely yeah it’s not the movie if they come if i able to design it in a filmmaker

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these are going to go if filmmaker do it gonna go for something called flashback flashbacks will bring history

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of you when they’re young again what they’re doing now and then give us back when

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you’ve been sharing and and then make the movie become huge and the history is small like this yeah

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this is what about so this is close to idea also

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when you see the paintings to be alive so means have to be

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beyond going it doesn’t have end like if you see deeply take any corner in a circle you see any

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movement of the area just keep focus on it and keep looking you’ll see it’s going beyond and deeply and deeply and

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right i don’t want my pen to end up like flash flat like

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d 2d like graphic design is really they do there’s something and up you can see the lines and

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right so i wanted to make a life even i’ve been working on even some media i’m doing some close or

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classic work but again someone that be there will be something going on like the painting have to be alive yes

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doesn’t have an end yeah i have another pink here that i want to bring up

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so this one’s a little bit larger than than those two that we were just looking at and i really love the texture of this

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piece there’s so much going on can you talk about what you used to to paint this because i

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know we’ve talked about it before that you’ve used knives to paint a bit

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of a brush did you use knives for this as well yeah so this one i call it spagletti

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came from the tools that i use because the paint

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against come back to to the foundation of the piece i use

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canvas become for me like one of the really good foundation for art as a

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white canvas and why i don’t just use without using any color

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any any white color to on my painting this piece especially this pieces because i use just three color blue and

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red and yellow wow and then the colors i use is not the case in the marketing

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so this is one of them i discovering and it’s for me not for world easier to do some piece of art this

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piece of photo i did it within 20 minutes well yeah i didn’t use on it anything

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else yes it’s about colors colors help me how to get the colors usually is media of the

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pigment of the silky screen color so they have the same quality of the oil

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color when they dry the dryer like oil color the same you can see people do sticky screen clothes when they dry this

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color doesn’t go out from the t-shirt you have oh wow so the pigment doesn’t change at all when it’s

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drying yes yeah doesn’t change anymore when the dry they stick like that they don’t go out even they put the water doesn’t go out

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anymore so you have the same the same uh pigment the same the same as oil color

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right oh right okay yeah but that one you can use it from first place you can even use water on it

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it doesn’t affect it but when they dry the dry yeah and how long does it take to dry is

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it similar to oil that it takes the dry is straight away in 10 minutes the dryer if you have

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it you cannot move any color you cannot do anything so you have to use what you call

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i have to use tool like to squish the color like

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i’ll show you something okay

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this is what i use oh oh it’s like a blade

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yes bletchy are you split oh pull the color down

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this is a plastic so from corner here this way i can turn it away and create

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something like face hair or hand food like whatever what i want to do i work

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with the corners but all the way this one just helped me give me one layer of painting

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right that’s what i want yeah so those really sharp lines that you

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have on this piece that’s just you pulling it and then like stopping and then like slide it away wow that’s

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really beautiful did you like that technique in school or did you find that

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as you flunk worrying come back again to when i use in the study when in study

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part when you learn about techy style so how to make africa and to make

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something effective on what you do in techy style right style some people take

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as a graphic design some people take us painting watercolor and then from there make it that’s how

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it look like so the text style i did here i take the compass itself i have to work on

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white rules like pull on color i get a white color

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yeah come first like make on plastic and put lines going around make those

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kind of afraid that you can see in the paintings because they’re going to help me

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giving me some other attacks on the painting right yeah so this one will be done it’s

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called skeleton i call it skeleton because without my skeleton i cannot walk even i cannot run

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right yeah i died yeah yeah so this is why i say i make a skeleton

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of lines you can see the lines you can see small lines of white more coming out and this helping me on

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giving what i’m doing with my tried that to color and they will help

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they’ll help give it really a good look cool against come to you come to you like what do you want to

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create what kind of colors you feel like you have this is color you have physical blue yellow and and and red

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so what are you going to do now when you put this color now i work too much if even if i make it

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easier i can make it easier with the simple and nice color yeah for me i’m still working on it i’m

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not yet convinced make it i’m i didn’t make it easier it still make it hard for me

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myself yeah you like that no one is someone will know that and then you’re gonna do

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it in easier way even don’t bother to work too much on it yeah they can yeah i’m sure but until now i’m

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not still happy when i’m going on it i feel like no it’s not good i’m half this is where you can see i still spend my time on it

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yeah i’m sure there will be someone there who actually have a good eye if you know the tools you know the

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colors you can just produce things that you cannot imagine even like simple in within just five

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minutes but from now i have a competition within myself i’m not convinced from what i’m i

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put colors like blue and yellow look beautiful even my kids wow leave it

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you’re like you’re not the artist yeah i’m still i’m still bothering myself i’m still making things happen myself with right

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right but i’m sure someone there will know how to use it in a simple way but when they come out officially and

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you understand exactly where this currency can found and where i can get those tools

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then i’m sure there will be someone there you can have a good touch that’s just simple and it’s

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beautiful results not the way i do my way i do it more complicated for

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myself well that that just goes to show that it’s there’s a deeper meaning to it as

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well it’s not simple there’s there’s a lot going on yeah so here’s another piece that we

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have in our inventory and can you tell us a little bit about this piece

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oh hello emmanuel uh oh it looks like we lost connection

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let’s see if this does it

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okay sorry about that folks just some technical difficulties at the moment

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just hang tight with us

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so if you’ve noticed on the slides here we have the description of the size and the pricing

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of each artwork that we have of the manuals and if you would like to see further for his inventory on our website

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you can go to www.youraga.ca

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and under the visit tab there is a drop down menu that says art rental and sales

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so if you just click on that then you can check out all of the inventory that we have for all of the artists including

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emmanuel’s inventory as well i think he’s back online we’re just

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gonna wait for his camera to come on up

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i don’t know but we are all good i just briefed everybody i let them know that your

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inventory is all available on our website so if people wanted to check out more of

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your inventory that we have at art rental and sales we can just do so on the website

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um but yeah let’s chat quickly about uh about this piece because we also have this one as a part

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of your inventory okay so now we can have

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now we see more of a of a figure um what in what inspired you to make

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this piece this comes from my mother yeah

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we’ve been raised with the mothers all africa not just south sudan the mother is the one stand behind us

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and help us to grow up when wealthy school even taking shower go to sleep or the mother

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doing that and then for example imagine we are six brothers and sisters and one mother and

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father is not there but what is the one going up down cooking give you time to go to school

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give you a birth thank you to sleep and see suffering like really to make us grow up and the

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father stand there so far away never come close to support like i didn’t see my father

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come and watching dishes or cooking food for us or not we go to work he comes sitting there and

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drinking and sleep so our women’s in africa really they are very very

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strong and they live in really poverty poverty life of being slaves to the men and for the kids

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and even i miss her life her time to join herself even he didn’t have that

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he’s been having kids just almost six to seven to eight kids one woman can have that so he didn’t

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enjoy her life so this is where i see like

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the women in africa say broken humans like the heart was brought down would be having when i see

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in canada here you can see the women’s strong and have two kids and they can see the men sometimes

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contributing helping in the family with the woman raising kids not all but some of them

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they’re doing it because just people have experience here a long time ago

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i’m sure distance is there before but they’re able to come out from that and able to develop

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themselves and become more more and things changing now in canada and but in back home no this never change and

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even here people come here these things still going the same things this is why an understanding of women’s and this way

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i’ve become we have divorced too many too much now in my community single moms too much now

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because now they understand the right of her and then there’s side there can support

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her from don’t be in abuse life and you have better be

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and free yourself and be strong and raise the kids you have and stop about them

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you can see it here but this way from painting as you can see like she’s like naked but

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they’re waiting her life but her life has gone already we’re having too many kids too many work

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at home with the kids man it’s not there yeah providing for everyone but herself yeah

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that’s a very very strong piece emmanuel yeah yeah we didn’t understand about the

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women’s women’s are new this is new plan like new world

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even here i see people don’t understand it like when i told you before i went to i go sometimes night club

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they’re standing watching i can you can see yeah yeah observing people and and

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how men treat the woman especially when they’re having money they have a nice car they see how they treat the woman in

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bedway at least woman who is study have a car have his own car have money have a car and then she can stand

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no one will touch her or different yeah we have majority here most

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most women didn’t go to school they end up just somewhere and those really going

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continue they’re going through a lot of problems in that their life so

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this way i’m interested in talking too much about immense because we need to learn more about humans because they

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give us life yeah we have example like women’s become

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like someone multiply things give her back to the medical food say i love you give you more words

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like give you is give your shadow give your so women’s multiply things like you take the things you put in the earth

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they’ll grow right away yeah this is how women’s like so we need to understand them we

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need to learn more about them we need to see what can we give them understand because they might fly things

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you give bad things they’ll give you better give them good they’ll give you good yeah but we still need to let us learn about them

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yeah i have another piece as well that i would like to share with everyone so is this a similar story of

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of women and and having that caretaker role is that similar to that

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last piece that we looked at now the piece here this piece is called

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i call them double face come from

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it’s about genetically like i know the women’s curry genetically is they want to

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carry on right now if you’re married to south sudanese person so you’re now taking a genetic to south

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sudan right so the women’s the wonder career is the career of life

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keep the life keep going it’s the women’s

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so again so when you see the painting it’s most talk about what poor women’s

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have we don’t have them the women have all right and then that’s why i put in the way of blue and brown

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so against if you go back they call us color people color people means

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people call green men women yellows men so when you see greens means

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someone really dark and looked green someone that looked brown

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like me now i look dark means close to yellows so it means i’m

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yellows like not not light so this is one of them but the paintings i don’t i don’t talk about

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much about it but these are the simple things about genetically

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naturally we curry the women’s carry the picture of the human yeah the good of immense a women’s soul

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it’s all about yeah and i can see as well on the bottom of the piece where there’s

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those uh swirls at the bottom and you have you’ve used that technique we mentioned

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previously of helping it cover and layer over top and and i think that’s really

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cool to now understand that technique that you’ve used and now i can identify it in this piece

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and that’s just that’s really cool as someone looking at at the piece now i understand it in a bigger way and that’s

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really really cool yeah because the piece of art want to say genetically if you and

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then you understand well if you understand the women’s world

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like when let me connect you with this like when do you see mutants mutants i don’t know what

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mutants here yeah people have a past and blah blah those kind of stuff i’m going to say movies

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doing but books behind but back home we have things like that exactly it’s working

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we have people who like my grandfather used to go when he feel like he’s not happy and people bring noise he

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goes sleep in this inside the water he go to the river he goes under the water he sleeps there

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for two three hours inside water yeah it will sleep there and then after three hours will come out

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yeah wow okay but i don’t know what the way he do even

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and then the teachers okay they teach us how to stay in the water they give us something look like bottle

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we take one hour to fill it with water say go fill this water inside the river you have to stay we sit just

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two minutes out three minutes we jump out you cannot stay in that without even breathing okay but we learn to take

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almost some hours to even spend like 30 minutes you can sense at the water because we’ve been

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teaching us so if someone can sleep inside the water for three hours

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wow their time so this is why i’m saying the women’s have a lot of power and if men understand the woman

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genetically we can able to create a better human yeah if we if we

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understand the women’s we can create a better better human because the human antenna they’re in the ball of females still the same never

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change we have to come back and understand the women’s well and how can we create our better better human that want

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to come in the future okay i have another one to show everyone

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so this is quite different from what we’ve looked at before this piece spiral um and can you tell me

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a little bit about this one i don’t think it’s oil it’s just uh just an etching

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yeah it’s a black and white yeah yeah it’s black and white i don’t remember this one i this is the

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first time this one or pieces i draw when i was here

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this time i came to canada in alberta i started working as a cleaner in university of alberta

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okay so this painting i painted in university the time when i have coffee time i sit

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there for 30 minutes and i start because i don’t have a brush i don’t have anything else

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so i have black pen only and then i use black and so create these pieces there like

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you can see hands raising up and there are a lot of problem going to the

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black community we don’t love ourselves one no one

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representing us two three

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system in canada is more about communism people are communities disabled government able to control

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people right by putting communities each community have to be well organized that government can go

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through them and that’s one of the beautiful system i love it but our community is so poor like we

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don’t reach anything so we just that time when i was here it’s really was we’re going through

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i don’t know what to do like you’re living you have kids going to work don’t be higher you

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hire tomorrow being fire in three months like we raising our hand up we need some

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support support not with money not the food but support of giving us chance of

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stress and been having a chance or also like me for example absolutely yeah

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yeah i’ve been trying to apply you go to commercial gallery apply a

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work and then you see a wall say okay we’ll call you back when you come back and say you know what

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we’re here and community ukrainian community we’re australian

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community and we have some artists here as australians they don’t like your technique because

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you change their marketing so we’re not gonna put you with us in the gallery because if you bring your technically

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i’m gonna change the our marketing so our work we do this kind of work if you can able to do some flowers and do landscape and

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then maybe can be welcome and then this where you say and then someone won’t push me away from what i’m doing

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to something that’s what they want oh that’s horrible yeah so just an artist should be able to

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create what you love and and as we’ve seen in the powerpoint you

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have wonderful technique and use amazing colors and it’s just so vibrant and

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you obviously have a love for it and a passion for creating this art and you should be able to do that

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yeah so this is where the blog come from you can see using the hands believing in that means

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different colors between like every color is there but just as dark so it means there are

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beautiful things within us but people see just one color but no there are a lot of things good within us

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so it seemed to be like we’re not welcome and then this is why we’re raising our hands we need someone to pull us up

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give us a light that they can able to see the blood turn to colors you can see the color right yeah so this

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is why the painting is all about wow very powerful image thank you so

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much for sharing sharing that with us emanuel i think we’re going to

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to wrap up for today um so again thank you so much for taking

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the time to chat with us today about your artistic practice and your passion for the arts and everything

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we’re so lucky to have an artist like you in our rental and sales and um if anyone wants to check out your

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inventory they can just send me an email or check out our website and i’m looking forward to bringing in

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in new works of yours because i know you’ve got a cool new project on the go

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yeah talk about a little bit with um do you want to share a little bit about it the the

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bottles yeah i’ve been looking on it but i don’t know where i put them because i was working on the summer cleaning

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yeah yeah and then that’s the way i put it but i already have some bottles i don’t

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know where but really the idea is all just to come with something new it’s not

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nothing nearly just new is i can able to to create and piece of art on

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on the frame inside the bottle so against like i’m trying to put the

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way of

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like i want to put some some there are things was made it you don’t know how married inside there some people and

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then again she come to someone understanding of level some people come how this guy did that

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and will come someone say oh he did like that will come someone underserved this guy they did it in this way he’d do

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that and that and that until able to make that right but the people totally zero they don’t know what how do you

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frame this kind of frame inside the bottle yeah so this kind of questions and again

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just you want to be creative something make value of art

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like art something cannot die have to be involved because now technology is getting in people

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are getting out from the world of art if you see the small number now actually he really have a commitment on art for

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visual art but most of people now they’re running after technology getting 3d and people busy with this

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kind of stuff so i’m just trying to come out with something

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unique to someone who you use like my kids now use to go with the ipad all the time tv

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that’s the ice was all about so what i bring something that give attention to him or her to feel

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something wow like you know at least put this screen down and start to see something new yeah

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absolutely yeah so this one yeah i can’t wait to see the the finished product i’m i’m such a

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fan of your creativity and i’m really appreciative of you joining us for tonight

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and on that note we’re going to say goodbye to our lovely audience thank you all so much for watching tonight’s

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uh meet the artist with emmanuel leila and have a safe night everybody and make

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sure to wear your masks it was again no it was very nice to see

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her smile it’s it’s weird seeing people smiles under under your mask so yes yeah i’m sure

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thank you well thank you so much emmanuel thank you yeah thank you for everyone there and i

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wish one day the coroner will go away and then we can meet again and we can talk more like physically not life yes absolutely

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yeah all right thank you so much have a good night take care bye-bye okay

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