This major exhibition by Hamilton-based father and son artists Roger Ferreira (b. 1961) and Kareem-Anthony Ferreira (b. 1989) features over 30 paintings spanning Roger’s 35-year career, and highlights the accomplishments of Kareem’s emerging practice. Hailing from Trinidad, though born in Winnipeg, Roger and his family arrived in Hamilton in the late 1980s and he quickly established himself in the arts community, taking on public mural projects, and working with children and youth to share his skills and artistic vision. He founded a downtown artist co-op and regularly worked with other artists to support exhibition practices in Hamilton. Having taught at Columbia College and in the Catholic school system for over 15 years, he has also built a substantive career as an art teacher in this city.
For Roger, this exhibition serves as a retrospective – spanning the major developments and themes in his approach to painting over the years, including his focus on family and Black culture, the landscapes of Canada and Trinidad, activism, and spirituality.
Kareem was born in 1989 in Hamilton and studied fine art at McMaster University before completing his MFA at the University of Arizona in 2020. In his impressive large-scale oil paintings, he revisits family trips to Trinidad. Working from old photos often taken during these family gatherings, Kareem builds richly textured images that reflect his experience of feeling rooted in two homelands: Hamilton and Trinidad.
Now represented by leading international galleries in Los Angeles, New York, Brussels and Toronto, and with a prestigious and growing list of private collectors, this is a much-anticipated large-scale exhibition of Kareem’s recent work.
Kareem and Roger came up with the title Gatherings to reflect on how they are both supported and inspired by their communities and families. Were it not for people coming together, this exhibition, and indeed their practices, would not be possible.This major exhibition by Hamilton-based father and son artists Roger Ferreira (b. 1961) and Kareem-Anthony Ferreira (b. 1989) features over 30 paintings spanning Roger’s 35-year career, and highlights the accomplishments of Kareem’s emerging practice. Hailing from Trinidad, though born in Winnipeg, Roger and his family arrived in Hamilton in …
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okay I think we’re going to get started hi everyone good evening and welcome to the art gallery of Hamilton or welcome
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back my name is Alexandra and I’m the lead of interpretation here at the gallery is the sound okay can you hear
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me okay great louder um tonight I’m thrilled to welcome
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artists Roger Ferreira and Kareem Anthony Ferreira you are here today to talk about their joint exhibition that
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we’re so proud to be in right now called Gatherings as you may you probably know
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Roger and Kareem Our Father and Son both artists and we’re so honored to be presenting their work together here at
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the agh with this exhibition I would like to start by acknowledging that we are here on the traditional
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territories of the Eerie neutral Huron wendat hodnessone and mississaugas this
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land is covered by the dish with one spoon wampum belt Covenant which was an agreement between the hotnessone and
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anishinabec to share and care for the resources around the Great Lakes We further acknowledge that this land is
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covered by the Between the Lakes purchased 1792 between the crown and the mississaugas of the Credit First Nation
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we as an institution recognize that a land acknowledgment is only one small step in the reconciliation process
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especially for Colonial spaces such as Galleries and museums there is much work to be done to better represent the
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voices and stories of this land that we occupy as settlers and that includes ensuring that the artworks that hang on
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our galleries walls really represent the diverse community that we are so proud to be a part of
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also on this day of remembrance I would also like to take a moment to honor and remember those who serve and sacrifice
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for our country both today and throughout history we show our gratitude and respect for their courage in the
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form of a poppy worn close to our hearts it is now my pleasure to hand it over to our curator of Contemporary Art Melissa
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Bennett who will introduce both Roger and Kareem thank you
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[Applause] hi everyone can you hear me okay
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okay I’m Melissa Bennett curator of Contemporary Art at the art gallery of Hamilton
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and I’m really happy that you’re all able to make it here tonight um normally the exhibition space doesn’t
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have all these chairs in it but we thought it would be better for you to be able to look at the art while we’re
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talking um so please feel free to kind of wander around and take a good look so I’m
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really pleased to welcome and introduce Roger and Kareem so Roger is from Trinidad though he was
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born in Winnipeg he and his family arrived in Hamilton in the late 1980s and he quickly established himself in
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the Arts Community taking on public mural projects and working with Children and Youth to share his skills and
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artistic vision he founded a downtown artists Co-op and regularly worked with other artists to
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support exhibition practices in Hamilton having taught at Columbia College and in
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the Catholic school system for over 15 years and including today Roger has been
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teaching since 8 A.M this morning so I’m very Andy had shop after school
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so thank you for being here at 7 pm um the this exhibit so he has built a
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substantive career as an art teacher in this city um and through all that time he has also
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built a substantive art practice and this exhibition serves as a retrospective covering four
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themes and approaches and major developments in his in his painting over
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the years and sculpture and the four themes um include his focus on family and Black
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Culture the Landscapes of Canada and Trinidad activism and spirituality and
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I’d be happy to point out the sections really quickly that’s the sort of the landscape area
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this is the activism area and I can go on and on about each individual work when we have time
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this is spirituality and this is kind of family and life in Canada in Trinidad
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and then we also have Kareem who is Roger’s son so Kareem was born in 1989 in Hamilton and studied fine art at
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McMaster University before completing his MFA at the University of Arizona in 2020 in his impressive large-scale
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paintings that you can see here he revisits family trips to Trinidad and vice versa when family was visiting
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Canada working from old photos often taken during these family gatherings Kareem
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builds richly textured images that reflect his experience of feeling rooted in two homelands Hamilton and Trinidad
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now represented by leading international galleries in Los Angeles New York Brussels and Toronto and with a
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prestigious list of collectors all around the world this is a much anticipated Gathering of Kareem’s work
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in his hometown because many of these paintings were made in the U.S and have
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not been seen by hamiltonians because they stayed in the U.S after his MFA
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thesis exhibition so those are the official bios and now I get to tell you quickly before I invite
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you all to speak about your work um that I had the pleasure of meeting Roger about 10 years ago when I first
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started working in this position at the gallery and I remember your work and I remember actually that watercolor right
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there it’s a beach mayaro Trinidad it’s the top one of the two I remember seeing
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that a long time ago and being being intrigued by Roger’s work and then seeing it several times in Hamilton
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through the years and then just always I believe I met you
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but didn’t um didn’t have much of a relationship until recently when we started working on this
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project and I was really inspired in learning that Kareem had also developed a painting practice recently and I
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wanted to see what that would look like if we brought it all together and each time I
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started to think a little bit more about it I just it was I uncovered more and more amazing reasons why it would be so
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good to bring this all together in one room and particularly for Roger I know
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I’ve seen your work and I’ve read about it in many places but to see everything
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together in three decades of practice is a really wholesome and fruitful and
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thoughtful way of experiencing everything that you’ve been doing in multimedia and also being able to see
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the influences that you’ve had in the Hamilton Arts community and in Black activism in Hamilton particularly with
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the and Still I Rise project which celebrated 100 Years of black activism in Hamilton
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which for which he was the lead artist and then I saw Kareem’s work was
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skyrocketing in the media um having been collected so quickly um out of his emerging out of his
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master’s degree class only in 2020 he graduated so this
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is this is like skywriting skyrocketing hot news in Hamilton that this artist is
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like all of a sudden um so successful out of the gate and that’s a really exciting time to invite
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an artist to work together so I first went to the Ferreira household in Dundas
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and I was welcomed there still during the pandemic we all had masks on but I was warmly
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welcomed into your family and as soon as I earned into your home and as soon as I
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got in there I thought oh yes because Roger had pulled out many of the things he had made and covered the whole living
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room and dining room and all the walls and everything was stacked and I thought there’s more than enough here to work
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with um and then I was asking Roger about every single piece where did you
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make this what’s the timeline here what were you focused on and we talked about these categories that we could kind of place your work into and and how this
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was all going to work and then I was going around the room and and then I got to this Shelf
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that Kathy pointed out in the dining room and it just says a lot because the entire shelf is full of the awards that
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they’re so remarkable distinguished family has won over the years in
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Hamilton for all of your incredible work so Kathy is a leader in her field of Social Work Kareem is obviously an
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artistic leader but also award-winning athlete and the two other sons are also
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award-winning and Roger is award-winning and the whole family is spectacular so I’m since then I keep learning more and
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more about how amazing they are and all of that is to say how very honored I am
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to be working with you that you let me and the gallery work with your work and
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bring it here together and add layers of interpretation and offer it to our
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audiences we feel very responsible in taking work out of your home that you’ll
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trust us to describe it properly to people and
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that’s that was my intention and all of that has fallen away because all that has come back is just people saying how
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much how much they love the show how much it means to them coming through here and that’s that’s now overtaken
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everything the the immense positive response that we’ve received
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so there’s lots to say about each of the works in the show and before I turn it
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over one last thing I want to ask is I believe that you all came here for a reason and it may be that you’re
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wondering something about one painting in here so if you each want to start to think of a question that you might like
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to ask I would love to know what you’re wondering about the work and why the
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artist made something or who’s in the image or who their favorite artist is or anything at all so I’ll open it up to
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questions after they speak but I would love to to have an interactive conversation
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um and so I asked Roger and Kareem to each pick two Works to please describe to us and that gives us more than enough
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to talk about because there’s a lot to talk about who would like to go first
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okay um first of all thank you for uh um first of all the opportunity to show
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back in Hamilton as I was away and as I’ve said that a
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lot of the work was made in the states and while I was making it it was tough because I
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knew that there wouldn’t necessarily be an opportunity for it to be shown in Hamilton
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so when you pitched the idea of being able to bring works from you know
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Private Collection that was the perfect opportunity to still have some of these
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Works back in Hamilton so thank you for having for uh pitching it and uh thank you all for coming out to
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um take in this artist talk I
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have picked out two pieces to talk about but I do want I would like to start with
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a little background on my work just a little more in depth into the ideas of
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my work and the process of making it um is that okay
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um so as was said my work is about
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growing up in two places in one in the kind of conversation that
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both Trinidad and Hamilton Ontario
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is having or has been having throughout my life and growing up
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being a part of two communities in two countries that are are different but
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also in some ways the same and I’ve been doing my best to kind of
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explore the the viewpoints that each place has of
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the other and kind of seeing how of adapted or picked up different things
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from each place so when you think sorry so when the
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people that I grew up around in Hamilton when they think of think or thought
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about the Caribbean growing up a lot of feedback or comments that I got is that
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they viewed Trinidad as a specifically tourist destination so when
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I would go home over the holidays to see family they’d be like oh you’re going on vacation thinking of like a like a Sandals Resort
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people like braiding their hair um so it was a very
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idealized marketed Viewpoint of what the Caribbean is and then thinking of the
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flip side of that kind of understanding what my cousins and aunts and stuff in the Caribbean
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think of what Canada is not a lot of them have even made it up here or been here before so
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it’s a very um kind of outside viewpoints of Canada is
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somewhat of like a winter ice Tundra like you know kind of very generalized ideas
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of what it actually is so I’ve been trying to like pick out specific things
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to represent both of those um viewpoints
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so a lot of my work you’ll see a lot of I’ve been playing with
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um I’ve been playing up the commercialized ideas of the Caribbean by bringing out a
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lot of Island print um like Hawaiian shirts and thinking of
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those patterns and what they mean and and what people associate the
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the symbols or specific flowers or fauna that you see
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in those patterns and how they instantly think of the Caribbean um kind of playing up that
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that idea so I’ve been taking that in and and putting it into these pictures
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of my families and like family specific family memories and
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um yeah so
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the two picks the two pieces that I’ve kind of picked out are are these two uh behind us here
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to kind of speak on that idea of a commercialized idea of the Caribbean
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this piece right here is called day at our beach the actual photos that were that were
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taken and compiled are I believe it was from a
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um a birthday party that happened actually in Hamilton
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and what I loved about what I loved when I just saw the
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the image you have this image of us actually in water
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and in you know playing and that that’s supposed to represent
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my parents trying to keep us connected to the Caribbean tried to bring that
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idea of like going to the beach um but bring it into Hamilton
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and what I loved about it was that the the front of the swimming pool you get this
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commercialized version of what they’re trying to sell to you when you have all these you know
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um children’s um drawings but they’re all like
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engaging in the water like with the water sports and things like that and that’s like the commercialized idea of
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the beach that they’re trying to sell to you so that you have those two layers of
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you know my parents bringing that beach to us and then but also using this marketed thing that is being being sold
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to you and then what I tried to do by by taking that and placing it
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onto a beach that’s uh Maracas Bay that is a a beach that we go to when we’re in
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Trinidad it’s a family beach it’s very um
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Personnel to me every time we go it has the best bacon shark
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uh and that is a I must go when we when you go to Trinidad so by taking it and
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placing it it’s it’s in a way connecting those three ideas
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of Trinidad being in Canada our parents trying to
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keep keeping us connected with the Caribbean and keeping us connected to our family there and still
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have us um
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like knowing our roots but also in a way seeing how
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in North America the these ideas of Beach and water sports and the Caribbean is also being
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sold back to us um so that’s day at a beach
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um the next one has a very long title that I uh that I chose but don’t always remember
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but I believe it’s boys at a ti-cats game with their friends
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in October 99 . a very long title but
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very easily describes what what is going on in this
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image and it’s obviously connected to Hamilton because that’s the that’s the the hometown Hamilton experience
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two things I want to mention with this I picked the name because that is also
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the what was written on the back of the actual
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image that was taken the actual photo that I used that was what was
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written on the back and that is very indicative of
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the time where disposable cameras were a thing but it was also a way that our
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families being in Hamilton could stay connected with our families in Trinidad
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back in the day when you got those disposal cameras when you took them you can get two prints you don’t I know you all remember that
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and obviously one pack would be sent to the Caribbean and one we would keep that one that we
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would keep so that was before cell phones that’s how we stay connected
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and stayed informed on the lives are of our my aunts and my
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cousins so that was just a little kind of connection to that
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and well I also I love about this piece is
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it’s it’s the flip side to a lot of the um Caribbean
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uh the Viewpoint of the Caribbean it’s it’s the Viewpoint of North America we
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are out in the middle of a winter at a sporting event and what I love about it is that
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this is a picture of me and my three brothers so are my two brothers three of us and we all got to bring one friend to
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the game and it’s interesting that the three of us all are bundled up in hats and coats and
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all three of our friends don’t have hats [Laughter]
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yeah knowing very clear that our parents aren’t aren’t used to this cold weather
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and made sure we bundle up and this is a piece that
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I really really wanted to have shown in
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Hamilton with the connection to the Thai cats and it’s a an experience
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that you have to have growing up in growing up in Hamilton going to attack
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that game and also I was lucky enough to go to the old diver one so
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it’s also connected to to me playing football as Melissa said so
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one thing that I love that you’re bringing up is that is the question of who Took the photo
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because some of them are Composites like the day at the beach is is three different images put together
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and to do that you use a projector just in case anyone’s wondering it’s uh so
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well like an overhead projector before that the um all the all the images are from as I
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said from family photos but some of them are vernacular images that I actually before the even before the projectors I
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have like taken and kind of pieced together and uh using Photoshop to kind
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of set up the image and then you know using projectors to to blow it up and move things around
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um in the larger scale yeah that’s something that’s really sweet that comes up in a few of your works so the ti-cats
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one is is straight from a from a photograph and it was Raj I assume it was Roger taking the photo so it’s sweet
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because some of these are like this painting wouldn’t exist unless Roger decided to take a photo at that time so
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it it further emphasizes the relation obviously the relationship between you two but it brings the whole show
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together even more and for example the one on the end is called small appliances that helped
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us fit yeah and that’s Roger just on the side and it looks like he’s taking a selfie of the moment her selfies right
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there so I’m curious actually how many of these I
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didn’t count like how many of these did Roger take be just curious one time I’ll think about that but it’s just it’s very
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sweet to think more and more about how your practices overlap and how you obviously watched him painting and
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making work as you were a child so thank you
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I didn’t mean to to end what you’re saying that’s a good place to end I think
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do you want to speak about a couple yeah or three I could talk about
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for me doing the art was both uh a place
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for me it was a way to get away from the stress and also to do something that I
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in my heart I always felt I must
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so the first painting a show is my arrow it’s
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these are paintings that have been like markers or mild posts in
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my career so that’s the first time that a teacher said that I was good
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um this is the watercolor the watercolor on the top of the two vertical ones yeah yeah so some people ask me when did I
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start knowing I I could paint so I remember crying for uh one of those
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watercolor sets you know they have the paint in the page already and my cousin got and he when he put the water on it
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just the colors all appeared so I wanted one of those instead of a
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hat and gun from the Western things and after that I won our Colgate
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competition I think I was about 10 years old but I had to wait until because there was no
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no art in school I went to St Mary’s College and didn’t have art as a subject you had to be able
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to afford to pay a private teacher for any kind of lessons
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so I began to work at the botanic gardens I did some drawings and stuff
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and then I was able to pay Mrs Howard she would go on to the beach on
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Saturdays and take her class to the beach and different places I didn’t get to go to
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and my arrow was the last
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painting I did where she said you know I think I’ve taught you all I can
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so you should try and get go away or something to learn some more
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what is especially and she taught me the difference between a painter and an artist
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now people can paint things like a photograph but when you begin to manipulate the
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feeling the emotion the feeling of the Wind
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if you look at the painting you will see that the wind is a lot of wind blowing and at that day
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it was pretty windy but I was able to capture the wind and and she said yeah this is it you got to do something else
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so I never went back to her after that I Was preparing to come abroad
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but because I was Canadian I was born in Winnipeg it seemed that you know that’s the place
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to go to and Kathy’s sister was here so yeah that’s how we began to make plans to
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come to Canada after we came I went to Scott Park because they had a
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daycare and I could put my son into daycare there and go to
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classes because they didn’t accept my qualifications as a
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tropical agronomist I went to Ikea which is Eastern Caribbean and I taught Farmers how to
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Farm using new techniques that the government wanted us to teach them
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so that was my that was my the top of my career I wanted to go to university so
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when I came to Canada I made plans to go to university Kathy made plans to go to university and she changed her job as
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well and I went to Scott Park for a year
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and there was the first time I was in an art class I was like wow this is awesome
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right they had paint before that when I went to Mrs Howard I
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had two brushes and each of them cost me like almost a fortune you know because like 20 bucks for me it was at that time
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was pretty expensive a brush so I only had two brushes and I saw
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those same brushes in the classroom I was like wow you mean we get to use these for
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free so I started to uh paint
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everything I could I tried this I tried that I tried printmaking I was just hopping from one discipline because I
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didn’t know I just knew I could draw but I didn’t know how to do any other other media
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so I tried everything and that’s why you see a number of different approaches because I’m always trying
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something new I don’t want to get bored or lacks I’m always pushing the boundaries trying to get something new
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going so the other painting I want to show you is
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uh when the other time I was told that my painting was good and it
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was it transcended the class was
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it’s in the corner there so the assignment is the first time I
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got an actual art assignment and I had to research
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so I was learning to research and learning about other artists and I researched an artist I was
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flipping through the art books and I saw this guy achimboldo which is a
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16th century Italian but he was doing something which I never
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saw before he was using the person’s career like if they they
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sold meat he would use meat if there were a fishmonger he would use fish and
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Squid to make the person’s face so he’s got so you know this is a challenge you’re using portraiture
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and you you’re using still life to create portraiture I say yeah if I could do this
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I might get some good comments on my teacher so I researched after action
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Boulder and then I thought of making it into something Caribbean
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so for you to appropriate an artist you have to make it yours right because
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why bother so I decided to make it root crops and there was a song I liked root not
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you Roots dread kinky dread from Bob Marley so it began to use it as an
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allegory for you are what you eat and if you continue to consume your own
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Roots you will always be strong so I
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saw Bob Marley’s backup group they were called cistern
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and I named her sister and I used all the root crops you could think about
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so the ears are ginger the onions edoes from Africa
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cassava you know all of the root cups and after I did the watercolor it turned
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out pretty good for I thought and the teacher was happy but I decided I’m gonna push it a little
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more I’m going to use this new paint called acrylics which I never used before and I did the male version which
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I kind of used I also tried to do a self-portrait I don’t know if it came
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out good or not but I use self portrait and I was doing too many things at the
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same time but I wanted to do everything at the same time and so that’s uh
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Idle Man I tell man is what they the Rastafarians call a person who is
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cool who doesn’t eat meat eating meat is is not part of the some
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Rastafarians uh cult or their religion
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so I use vegetables again to make up his face so that’s
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one two the last one I want to show you before is another time which I made a transcending
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leap and the teacher said yeah give me a
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thumbs up was uh if you look outside there’s a a professor named Hugh you will see him and um he went at McMaster
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I went to McMaster and there was also an assignment I had to
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come up with a group of paintings by a certain time now I was kind of leaving it to the last
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minute and I had to hand it in on Monday I think and
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at home the boys were jumping and we bought some new Ikea furniture but the boys were jumping on the
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furniture and it it busted right through so I was like oh man two two problems I
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got an assignment and I got busted furniture so I looked at a
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frame of dfinity and I thought you know if they had put just a piece of plywood it would be fine
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but they use like a piece of sugar bag what we called um nylon or something to bag to make
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this sofa that held up the cushions so I ripped it
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off and then I put I took canvas and free and um stretched the canvas on it
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and then I said okay I got my canvas for next week and I had a small newspaper clipping of
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a woman who was being ignored at the church steps by some other women
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who were dressed in their finest so said hey that looks to me
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like the Good Samaritan I don’t know if you know the story of the Good Samaritan
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but his fellow Jews didn’t
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pick him up after he was assaulted and his money taken and he was beaten up
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but a Samaritan who was his enemy took him up
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cleaned them up and took him to the hotel and say you know whatever it costs I will pay
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and then Jesus asked who is his neighbor is it his countrymen or is it this
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Samaritan who is his enemy and it stumped a lot of people so I used that but I used woman
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for the Good Samaritan so these two women are ignoring somebody who has a baby and who is homeless
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on the steps of the church so again I’m putting
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I’m taking from today from tomorrow from yesterday and I’m
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trying to make it into one thing at the same time yeah can I ask you to tell about one
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more just because people always ask about the largest painting or the largest one
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uh again I’m learning to study
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For the First Time study artists in general and I have art history to do
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and I have art to do at the same time because I’m taking an art history and art degree
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and that one was one I had to hand in for a culminating activity
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so I looked at I was studying Guernica by Picasso
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and his this his work was about the Spanish war in which there was a
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massacre and I looked at that and I said wow you know he did it in pen in pen and ink
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it was just a drawing but I thought at that time Rwanda was going on in the
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news so I looked at the newspaper and I saw Rwanda and I thought this is kind of
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similar here we’re having a massacre in history and we have a massacre today
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this thing is is not new it’s human beings seem to be doing
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this to each other from ever so I took
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different clippings and I assembled them together and then I use I didn’t use uh
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like cream has the benefit of a projector but I just I didn’t have that at the time but I
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just um use took a clipping I I use Picasso as the
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the work if you see if you put grenica next to it you would see the similarity
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it starts with a triangle people are standing straight up and then they they the society crashes and you can see
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that in the painting somebody is that guy in the green is being pushed by somebody else and then he is pushing
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against other people and they’re all falling down and at the end of it you see there’s a
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dead a dead person and a person suffering they are melting
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so it’s just the collapse of the society
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into Anarchy and you know the same thing
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that Picasso witnessed it’s an amazing painting and I always
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think like what would happen if if you had four more canvases what what you would
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paint if it if it had been at the time or even now if if you were to
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keep going at that scale that’s my that’s my wish for you after the show thanks
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so I uh I don’t know if if you understand how I don’t know if my my
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mind works like other people’s but I’m always collecting information and seeing things and then maybe I’ll sketch it or
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maybe I’ll take a picture of it and I keep it for later that’s like fun and I don’t know if I some of them many of
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them I never get to but when I needed something I had something connects
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then I go searching and then I find it and then I try to bring it back yeah
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Kareem do you have like an inventory of ideas that is coming to next
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next um I yes I still have a lot of different
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images that I’ve kind of like stockpiled and plan to work with
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different kind of ideas that uh that I’m trying to play up um so yeah I do have a lot and I’ve
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actually been starting to reach out to like cousins and stuff to see what
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stockpiled images they they have and to see how it you know it compares to the
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one that I have so it could go in a lot of different directions yeah
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I’d love to check if you have questions that you would like either artists to speak to
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you your hand up is up first
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yeah um I have a watercolor book that says the same thing if as a if you’re a
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painter lots of painters just can replicate
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what they actually see so that’s fine but then
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if you take it beyond that whereas it is something new you are
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creative your creative mind is making something that never existed before
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you know you are capturing something which is beyond the natural it seems
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then you are considered the book says you are considered an artist
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because it it’s you it’s not something that you can find anywhere else
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it’s an original piece and you can do that in anything you know you can do that with film with fashion
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right it’s something that has never appeared on this Earth before so that’s
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the transcending to an artist
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yeah definitely I mean you could tell a Kareem Ferreira it’s his own even the framing of it you
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know it’s a unique thing that never existed before so
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Bob
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yes like I’ve been talking to some of my cousins uh
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and asking them to just do what I’ve done and you know look at
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their collection of old family photos and you know pull up pull out some
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interesting ones for me if they can or want to um just to kind of see what they have and
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how it kind of compares to the collection that I’ve collected or sorry we’ve conducted over the years
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they actually are all my parents photos that I’ve taken and have been using but
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yeah I have quite a few cousins my uh
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they’re all in Trinidad I have yeah I think I’m my mom’s side alone I
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think we had around it was around 20 or something cousins on that one side yeah and then
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I think I think 21st cousins yeah Kathy comes from a family of nine yeah
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I come from a family of six so
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it is it is right now this you know I as this is the work that I’m currently exploring up in
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luckily enough to have these uh personal memories like collected over
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the years and you know bringing together
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these old photos they they they not they aren’t always
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pieced together in like uh sequential orders so sometimes I’ll put together
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images that aren’t um lined up like
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you could have someone replicated in it in the image like the image in the hall
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when you’re coming in there’s uh two shots of me in the same photo
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piece together just um due to
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you know concept the idea of it being my memory seeing it and remembering it
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many different ways me memory remembering it different from someone else who was there
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um and I’d love that the bring together of
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this old form of Photography this new form of Technology being able to scan it and
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move around in in Photoshop the idea of portraiture it all kind of
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connects it into into one piece so yeah
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thank you that’s an at the natural kind of thing that happens or happens in it you know
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when there’s a camera out someone always tries to you know look at the camera and
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so that’s a thank you there’s another question in the back
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um the dinner scene on this wall um first of all each piece
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due to the you know the process and the size I
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work on a few at a time so a lot of times I’ll
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like start with start the process of you know cutting the canvas and prepping the canvas and then
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um at the same time when I’m not in the studio I can be putting together the images and and all
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that stuff and then once once that’s done and the canvases are done then it’s like prepping the surface
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um so a lot of them are being worked on like simultaneously but on average they
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probably take like a month and a half two months from like idea
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um starting the campus and then painting the painting is actually probably the the quickest part of it
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um depending on if I can you know sit down and get into the mood or stay focused and
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but and that dinner scene particularly
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um a lot of the
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images do come from Gatherings and that’s why it is the the name and the
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theme but it’s the coming together of family the coming together of
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People Like Us and
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that particular um Peace is
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a very special memory that I have of growing up in
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Hamilton the the woman in the the middle that’s kind
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of focused around is a close family friend
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um my Aunt Karen’s mom and we would spend a lot of particular
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like Thanksgiving and Christmases spent at her house and she
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I always opened her door to us and we always and we still are are very close so that that particular piece isn’t so
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much about the the event that’s kind of the second the
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secondary aspect of it is more about you know highlighting her as this
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um more than more than a person more than a person to me and
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that’s why she’s like the main focal point and the the Gathering in that image is actually is secondary
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but yeah I don’t know if that
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um you know that’s a hard one that to
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to answer because it is something that growing up I knew
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out of all the subjects in school like that and Jim I knew I could do without thinking like it just came
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naturally to me and it is something that I just
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um was drawn to I liked the the the ability to kind of solve a problem
47:39
um and and the want to like make things I’ve always I’ve always had
47:45
but art was always and there’s always an activity like
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going to school or or playing sports like there was always something
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that we were either involved as kids or my dad was involved in that had some
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sort of artistic Outlet so it was always around so it was obviously a big
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influence whether that was his projects whether that was
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um you know things in the community that we took part in my dad also ran summer
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camps every summer as and they were always art focused so
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I I yes I probably would have pursued it but it but also I I could have not
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it was just always a part of my my upbringing
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I I keep telling them all I’m just glad to be here I’m just happy uh two things I want to tell you about
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when we say aunts and uncles these people are not really our aunts you know because we adopted them because when we
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came to Canada we didn’t sorry um and
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in our village yeah it’s in in our it’s in it’s in our
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village it’s like finding forests I don’t know if you know that movie but in our village your moms and dad’s friends
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you know you refer to them as Auntie and Uncle that’s it you don’t say Mr
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so-and-so or you don’t say Fred or you know no you it’s close enough but he’s firing you
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know he still has to be respected so Uncle so on so if he if he’s hanging if it’s your mom’s friend or your dad’s
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friend you know that’s it and the other thing about Kareem I’d like to add cream always had that talent but you know
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sometimes what I noticed there’s a guy in school in Trinidad who
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was better than I was when I was I admired him he used to draw a lot of cowboy pictures I always
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admired his works I went back to Trinidad and I saw him so Sylvester what’s going on I said are you still
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drawing do I stopped drawing since in in sentence Primary School
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he never continued yeah so what I know so I thought you
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know somebody I if Kareem is good take him along bring him along and so I made them forcibly
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there it is I wanted them to be part of Hamilton
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history so I and the answer I Rise project I took them all the way to Guelph and I made them paint the wheels
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of the thing you know or when we had um the project on the school
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I made them sign their names or write a poem or something so when they get older and they say
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you know my dad made me I’m part of that I I designed I have to do that painting
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you know so that is the other party you can’t really eat you don’t know how to how can you give
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that you know you just I have to babysit them I have nowhere else to take them you got to do what I
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do right I’m from I see this when we were doing
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uh for instance murals I would say okay you know how to paint a wall you just paint this for me and he’s there he’s
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busy doing something he’s not getting in trouble I know where he is
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so and look at what happened [Laughter]
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yes I think there was a question up front yeah
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Okay so this is the sculpture in the corner this
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is the sculpture in the corner there so I began to right now my uh
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my mind and my whole body everything is towards finding out more about Jesus
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I was introduced to him but I never really had a personal relationship
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and for me he said when I started to read the Bible
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more I realized he had to have one to get into heaven so he he says to people I never knew you
52:34
he said I did all this stuff I was an acolyte it was I helped in church but then he says hey I don’t know you so
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that’s what I believe everyone needs to have a personal relationship with God so
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for that one I was exploring all the times that that God had saved the DNA so
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that his son could come true right and when God was President for his
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people so this one here in the corner is when if you look behind you you see a
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type of Arc it’s called that’s when um you know Moses mom put
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him into the so it’s it is called an ark in Hebrew
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and this is the Ark of the government when God would dwelt with his people and protected him
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and then the other time was Noah’s Ark when he also saved Noah he was a good man and he tried to keep him from
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getting so the devil has always been trying to mess with the DNA so that Jesus wouldn’t be able wouldn’t even
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have a virgin to come through and see if the rest of humanity so that’s my belief
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and that is what I tried to express so I did the three arcs Noah’s Ark it’s too
53:45
big for me to I’m just kidding it’s about this size it’s not and I would and my my uh
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my ceramic teachers in the crowd tonight so can you raise your hand this is where
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[Laughter] so she taught me uh I did a a stint at
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dvsa for Columbia College so I could teach Ceramics she taught me and I tried
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to make us bigger project again I’m pushing the envelope I wonder how much how how what what’s the largest thing I
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could do in this kill and and that is the largest thing I could do in the kill
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yes thank you I I have to have something a challenge and that’s what you know it mentally if
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you do art and it’s not mentally challenging to the people who are looking at it oh I’ve seen that you know
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that’s the approach anyway yes in the back yeah
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not anymore foreign I have worked with Kareem lately and
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Kareem is teaching me a lot of stuff because he is in the present he has all this
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stuff that wow I didn’t know you could do that right look for instance I had to log this big painting around I
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and it couldn’t fit in my my car and I had to ask the boys to wear gloves and
55:28
hold it down in the winter to Move It from McMaster so we would tie it down but it still would be blowing up and everybody’s hand
55:35
is not true story foreign so but look at what Kareem has invented
55:41
he put a thick canvas on that and he rolls that up and sends it to Belgium who knew it looks simple but I didn’t
55:49
think of that so I don’t tell Kareem what to do it he
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is this one here because I’m in it [Laughter]
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laughs
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um my favorite actually my favorite
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some of my favorite work that my dad has made was some of the prints he did when he was at Mac
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um he actually has one of them hanging in that show next door I should also check that out
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um I liked it so much I found them in the basement and then got them framed
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and then he took them back to put it in the show laughs
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um but yeah that those pieces are like it wasn’t until I actually
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[Music] like took a class and understood the process of of those prints that I
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actually like understood how difficult they were and and you know seeing them again I was like
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wow I don’t know these like this was a a very good body of work but painting wise
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um I I can definitely see
57:16
where I you know picked up some of the
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the painting techniques that I have in my work I can see a connection to these
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two the two larger ones um just the way that
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the paint is handled I can kind of see where things that I’ve pulled and you and the um bag and some of the dresses
57:41
in the Haiti painting the
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vertical one there’s a lot of actual collage elements into it and I can you
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know also where I picked up some of the ideas of not necessarily not necessarily even the
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ideas of it but when I started painting I I already knew that that was something that was
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possible you know being able to see it in my dad’s work um thinking about
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not just painting on a flat surface but putting something down and be still being able to paint on top
58:23
of it so you when you look at the painting you read it two different ways when you see it from
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afar it looks like a flat painted surface but you go up you can actually see some of the textures that you think
58:36
is painted is actually the actual object that is collaged onto it
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um yeah and that’s you know what I’ve kind of Taken and done my best to adapt in my
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work I didn’t notice that until you brought it together because now I look across it
58:56
wait a second here you know it’s similar what’s going on
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here right but I never noticed no I never noticed that
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the collaging was similar so some of the work is when you put it
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together like we never I for me all a lot of this stuff was in the basement you know
59:19
stored up not cataloged or anything just like okay I’m had enough of this painting put it away
59:26
and then I pull it out or finish it but for the show it was a challenge now
59:33
wait a second here I’m in the art gallery I can’t you know I can’t I can’t mess around here this is a professional I gotta I
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gotta come good and then he said Dad um my paintings are
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much larger than yours uh maybe you need some more canvas so he brought this big
59:53
canvases to me and said for my Christmas you know so I have no excuse now I got
59:59
professional canvas professional brushes I got to come up to speed so thank you
1:00:06
for that I never noticed that he had collage from from my paintings in there although I saw his
1:00:13
paintings and I saw mine but I never connected it but once you’re in the same room you’re
1:00:18
like you know so it’s a surprise and then uh
1:00:24
yeah
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good question um I liked uh he should introduce me to
1:00:43
Basquiat and I like how he is I take a little bit
1:00:50
from different people um his immediacy and it’s not like you don’t care but
1:00:58
it it’s about getting the message across more than anything else right and
1:01:04
whatever you have to do to get the message across you do is before I used to be painting like uh
1:01:11
for commercial purposes because for most of my earlier works it was trying to
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make money let’s face it I got some big boys I gotta feed them I got University to take care of right I
1:01:23
promised them I don’t know if it was I foolishly promised them that if they did reach certain thing we would have we
1:01:30
would cover the rest of the stuff right so I’m just kidding so it’s just always
1:01:35
uh like forces she’s coming after me and I have to Ride Like the Wind so I was always
1:01:41
trying to to sell stuff as well as a Hustle so I didn’t really think about
1:01:47
following anybody I just took oh I like this part of this work I like this part of that person’s work and I and I’d use
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it they
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oh okay yes
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I see what you mean I’ve seen his work I’ve I just
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I just appropriate what I want from other people and yeah and I don’t
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yeah I just make it mine
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thank you
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yes
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yes that’s uh
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so that’s that’s Rosa Park and that’s her Prison number
1:02:57
yeah so what we do as artists is we we leave things in there that you will
1:03:04
question and unanswered questions either because we don’t know the answer or we would
1:03:11
like some discussion about it like I see the same thing in Kareem’s work right you know like for instance that one
1:03:17
there’s a foot going somewhere and you don’t see who it’s connected to him so it’s always that that’s what I mean
1:03:24
by the human mind likes to be teased likes to be
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you know because as soon as they work something out they’re like I know what that is about but
1:03:36
if it’s a question you’re like this is bothering me I I have to answer this question you know
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so that’s it yes that painting is called peace March and
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I’m sure you recognized the other figures in it there’s Gandhi
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Rosa Parks Malcolm X yeah that Malcolm X um Martin Luther King Martin Luther King
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yeah so this is not again this is Imagination
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the mountains are a Wilderness so we are walking in a Wilderness in the dark
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right but the Bible says we are the light of the world so these people
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have held up different types of light like there’s a flashlight there’s a
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torch there is a candle right and all of us for freedom
1:04:36
for truth we have to shine our light we have to say something against the
1:04:42
darkness that is increasing in the world we see it all every day so if you have to you have to
1:04:48
shine our light and there’s those are the people that started it but if you see people following everybody has to do that in
1:04:55
order for the room to get brighter so it’s a Wilderness the mountains are in the wilderness they’re in the like in
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a desert in the dark but it’s allegorical it’s not
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Maggie
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thank you
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um yeah I mean I I as I said this this show and you know
1:05:52
showing at this place was it is a dream that I’ve had
1:05:58
you know growing up in Hamilton and coming from um you know being surrounded by Art and
1:06:06
even every summer when we would have my dad would do the
1:06:12
the art camps this was always a stop that would be like one of the
1:06:19
field trips that he would take us to so growing up here and coming here every
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you know every summer and seeing the artwork and being around the artwork
1:06:30
and it has it has been a dream to to one day have my work on the walls and
1:06:39
there’s like no better feeling be able to do it with with my with my dad so
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I hope you have taken a moment to understand how you know big this is and
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how how Full Circle it’s come being
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and seeing you know this place over the years but now
1:07:05
having your work on the roles and and me having the honor to have my work on the
1:07:10
walls with you um and to go from here it’s
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I feel it’s only to bigger and better things hopefully
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um I have I still have a story to tell I still have I’m still
1:07:29
growing on that story every day that I that I’m living so I am
1:07:36
trying to do my best to communicate what my
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my immediate family is what my my family and my relatives in Trinidad my
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grandparents um I’m trying to represent
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the you know it’s a son of a of immigrants you know first
1:08:04
first generation um represent black artists black youth
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in Hamilton black youth in Canada and I hope that my work is going to
1:08:16
continue to kind of push push the limits of what that means to be all those
1:08:22
different things um I guess that’s the dream to continue to
1:08:28
kind of push those boundaries and um have people connect with my work on as many
1:08:35
different fronts as possible I guess that’s that’s where I’m going
1:08:44
what about you it has been a dream man until the dream
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was like ah this will never happen and then it happened
1:08:56
so you know when you pray for something and you could even you could forget
1:09:02
about it but God doesn’t forget and when I heard that I was like
1:09:09
I take a few deep breaths because I don’t want to get you know I don’t want to wake up the mic and everything
1:09:15
because I’ll get emotional but yeah it’s been a
1:09:20
33 decades and a bit of dreaming
1:09:27
right 61 so but I feel like a young man inside so
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I’ll keep going I’ll keep going because I’ve been
1:09:41
rejuvenated by this and I haven’t told anything I’ve just basically thought you know
1:09:47
is always trying to survive it’s always trying to survive when you get a chance to just
1:09:53
and you’re at the age where you don’t care what people think you know what I’m saying I guess that’s
1:09:59
my dream my dream for his work is to now that you know I feel a lot of a lot of
1:10:06
uh well growing up he obviously had us three and as he said his work did take a
1:10:12
somewhat of a turn to to provide to provide for us and to give me the
1:10:19
opportunity to to pursue the career that I wanted my brothers as well and I hope that dream
1:10:26
for his work is that he he now can you know explore whatever he wants and it doesn’t need to be
1:10:33
for that reason financially you know he can he can explore things that he wants for because he wants to do it so I guess
1:10:41
that’s my dream for his work as well I am I’m amazed I’m just happy to be
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here I’d like you to see that
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what else can I say that’s because you deserve to be here and yeah
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thank you so much for for being here on behalf of the gallery we’re so grateful
1:11:04
to show this work and to offer it to people to learn from and relate to and
1:11:11
just be in this like really joyful space of beautiful paintings or work that
1:11:16
you’ve made and um we’re just we feel really lucky that that we get to to kind of share this
1:11:22
time with you and the exhibition is still on until January early January so
1:11:28
there’s still lots of time for everyone to bring their friends um
1:11:33
so I think we’re going to wrap it up unless there’s anything else that you would like to share
1:11:40
um I think I think that’s a good place to end it unless any there’s any more questions any questions oh one more
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for the way
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so the yes the um
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the way that I have it mounted did come from you know again
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being in a situation where I needed to solve a problem and I think what’s what’s great about it is it’s
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um indicative of being from you know from two places at once so
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I actually preferred to work on like panel board like wood because it
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was very rigid and I never really liked working on stretch canvas
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and in 2018 I did a residency in Trinidad
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at Alice yard and I made these I wanted to work large scale like I had been working
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but I had the problem of being able to ship it and bring it with me from Trinidad back to Arizona so
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thinking about how to be able to do that it
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it isn’t completely my idea I’m not taking credit for that at all it was I’ve actually an artist that I enjoy is
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a Carrie James Marshall he’s an American painter and some of his work is also
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hung in a similar way where he has these kind of large
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Flats of material that he attaches his paintings to and they they can also be rolled up in a similar way
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so that that was just you know adapting to to the situation I had and but it was a
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way that I could also work on the paintings flat against the wall and still have
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that richness of the wall but them being on canvas and then being able to roll
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them up in and you know shift them easily but I also love them
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because they have a like a very unique feel to them they
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also read as object or as an object and they they
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when handling they have like a very unique weight to them that um
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I never really got with stretch canvas moving to the actual surface
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um again coming from working on panel I
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I would also really enjoy using like found wood that I would find
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and the wood would come with its own kind of texture and own history of where
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it was and then I loved being able to take that and paint on it and then
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evolving from that I was really enjoying the collage and of the surface
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and not working from a flat white surface building building up the ground
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and I was also exploring um
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a trait that I that I see in my family I see in the Caribbean the idea of
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reusing and repurposing found materials in a way to
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preserve memory like keeping things when someone passes you know keeping their
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stuff and keeping relics and things to to prolong their memory and and keep
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them close to you and
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there’s again two sides to that there is
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a positive because you are you know keeping the memory there’s a positive because you are you know taking
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an object and giving it another life and reusing it and repurposing it but also there is
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at times uh an overbuild of of items and then you get when you think
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of like clutter and like um houses being packed full of these
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sacred memories but on the outside it looks
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unkept or um
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unclean or something like that so you know playing with playing with that idea of of
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finding these objects and and bringing them together for a visual aesthetic but also
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understanding that there’s this like build up of of of ground and that was
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something that I was kind of pursuing previously and it isn’t the fork run of
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this work so it is just kept kind of as the ground of the work
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but moving forward I was I was you know taking that idea of
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of the island print and the island symbols and I wanted to think of a way to
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kind of embed more more information into the work so what I started to do
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was to you know cut paper and it was too
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in a way symbolize you know in like kindergarten classes when they when
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they give kids paper to fold up and then cut into snowflakes it was supposed to be like an
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abstraction of that so you would have the Island prints kind of collage into the
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surface where you can see um on the surface but there’s these like
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cut paper snowflakes that are embedded into the surface
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but then to take it a step further I was thinking well how can I get the island print into the surface and
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then I started to take out specific identifying things of the island
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plant-like specific hibiscus flowers or like tropical fish
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and then cutting them either cutting them out in paper I played around with using
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like a laser cutter to cut out shapes into paper
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and then I would have these kind of stencils that I either cut up and glued onto the surface
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I use them to to spray paint you know the relief onto
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the surface as well I was you know pushing gel medium through so they would
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be these like hunks of gel medium that I could then paint over in the shape of those those forms so it’s just
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a way to again bring more meaning into the surface and and bring more
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memories or ideas into it as well so
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the surface you know has its own kind of um
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history or or or representation as well as the actual image and again to play to
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that idea of seeing a work and it having two or multiple different
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ways of viewing it um seeing it as the image and seeing
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the work that goes into the image and the cutting up of the of the photos the
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cutting the cutting up of the memories the bringing together memories just seeing the photo but then actually
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seeing it as this physical object coming closer and then seeing
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the the work and the stuff the the work that goes into the surface as a
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completely different um pieces in itself
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and how those uh the layering and how
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having the painting on top of it and how that works differently yeah
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it’s definitely a it’s definitely a revelatory moment when people like they
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they see they work from over there and then they come closer and closer and then they’re like whoa who is this this like I think it does or even when people
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see it online they they have no idea and then they come seat and personally like whoa yeah so yeah well thank you so much
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for for spending time and sharing all of this very valuable beautiful information
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about your work and thank you all for coming and we have a bar straight down
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there that’s open for a half an hour if you want to stay and enjoy refreshments
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and other than that I think as I said the show is on until January 8th and please come back
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and thank you again thank you [Applause]
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