#AGALive | Curator's Tour of 'Here I am - can you see me?' with MJ Belcourt Moses

2022

Watch our Mar. 12 tour of ‘George Littlechild: Here I am – can you see me?’ led by MJ Belcourt Moses. This exhibition is sponsored by Capital Power. AGAlive is made possible by Canada Council for the Arts.Watch our Mar. 12 tour of ‘George Littlechild: Here I am – can you see me?’ led by MJ Belcourt Moses. This exhibition is sponsored by Capital Power. AGAlive is made possible by Canada Council for the Arts. …

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94 Calls to Action
94 Calls to Action
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94 Calls to Action

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Discharge Papers
Discharge Papers
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Discharge Papers

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The Spirit House
The Spirit House
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The Spirit House

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Spirit House
Spirit House
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Spirit House

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you ready i think we’re starting hi everyone uh we’re going to wait a couple minutes for our

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lion to join us uh welcome to a curious tour by m.j belcourt moses of george

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little’s child’s exhibition which is closing this weekend so we’re very lucky to have mj here to lead this curator’s

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tour i just want to briefly uh thank everyone for being here uh we also have people online we’re going to have the

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curious tour and then we’re going to finish up with the 15-minute q a so um think about your questions

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throughout the tour uh and before we get started i just want to thank our sponsor canada council for

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the arts who sponsor all our digital programs so without further delay here’s mj

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thank you hi everyone dan say my name is melissa

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jo belcourt moses that’s my full name but i do go by mj so please

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mj my family’s from the laksana metis community

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and uh so the bell courts latandras the callahus uh are all my relations um

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we’re all also connected to the michelle band so uh lots of family just west of the

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city and so the bell courts have been in this this territory in this lands for

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uh well the community actually sort of started around 1840s ish so lexington’s

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been sort of definitely been around for a while so all those uh that are from there are my

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relations my mix my is cree mohawk in french uh apitagosan

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which means that we’re mixed blood metis so that’s who we are and that’s who my family is

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so um you also want to honor uh the treaty peoples that we are and

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the lands that we we do reside on so hi hi um

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i do want to say that i’m i’m really grateful that i am here and i was able was given this opportunity to showcase

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uh such a a poignant uh exhibit so and i do have to apologize i do have to

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refer to notes i’m i have just uh a lot going on and i do have memories

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that that don’t connect very well so i’m sorry i have to refer to my notes i wish

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i could just memorize everything but and i do have glasses i always forget to

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put them on you know and then i think why am i squinting okay here we go

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those are the joys right of getting a little older

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so to begin with though i i knew that i wanted to bring awareness to indigenous peoples stories lives

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that that we sometimes bypass and so um i was grateful when i spoke to george

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and he said i just finished a series on on the children from residential schools the unnamed

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unknown uh children and so i was really i was really grateful that

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george uh that we had talked and that uh this came about so that we could share this exhibit uh

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with with everyone so it’s um and this was actually done before

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his his series was finished before the the find of the 215

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from kamloops were found so um so this has been something that has i

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mean it hasn’t it just hasn’t just arrived it just happened we know that this has happened and has gone

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on for over 150 years so we know that this has been an issue but it’s it’s definitely come to the light especially

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with the fines that um that of the of the children unfortunately so just a little bit about

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george um over the course of about four a 40-year career george has been has had

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numerous solo and group exhibitions his art has been exhibited in canada the united states japan australia tasmania

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and europe as a world-renowned artist his books and art have won numerous and awards and scholarships to date he has

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curated hundreds of artwork which hang in public and private collections around the world

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he was uh he started a drawing he said when he was around four probably earlier but um when

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he was around four so he said he became a full-time artist at the age of 30. he received a diploma

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in art and design from the red deer college in 1984 in an uh bfa from the

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nova scotia college of art and design halifax in 1988 he also received an

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honorary doctrine degree from the university of fraser valley his socially charged mixed media paintings are

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in response to political movements societal concerns and such as reconciliation reclamation and as well

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his personal history and to quote george he says in my work i am committed to

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writing the wrongs that first nations people have endured by creating art that focuses on cultural social and political

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injustices as an artist educator and cultural worker my goal is a better world it is

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my job to show pride strength and beauty of first nations people and cultures and

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contribute to the betterment of mankind i actually really like that part that he’s you know contributing and wanting

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to contribute to the betterment of mankind so i’ve known george for many years i’ve admired his work

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actually the first time i met him was at the native art and show and sale there

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used to be these really amazing uh art shows indigenous art shows here in edmonton and it was like mid eight

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1980s to the early 1990s uh that they

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had these really awesome shows and and i was an art student an indigenous art student

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to the city with my class from lac la bish and that’s where i met george for the first time

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there was of course as a starving artist student you know you don’t have a lot of money buddy but he did have some

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art cards that i was i thought i can afford those and i might not be able to afford a print or an original but i can

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afford those beautiful cards so um the one that i did actually bought two of them and one of them was it was on

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horses and it was called oh where am i here a spot on horse blanket and the other

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one was winter count so um martha campio actually was one of the origin organizers of these big uh

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indigenous showcases and and they were pretty pretty amazing uh there’s all

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kinds of art from you know carving and quill work and beadwork and and lots of

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beautiful paintings and so i’m i think i was just bug-eyed at all this beautiful

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work um but i did walk away with those beautiful cards of george’s and so um

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i didn’t really i kind of met him there but then it wasn’t until years later that i met him

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again over the museum and found out that he knew my late uh

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brother my half brother bruce belcourt so we became friends through that connection and and just remained friends

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ever since and so he’s always been an encouragement to me and my artwork and my my my path that i’ve been traveling on

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so a wonderful very kind-hearted person and once you get to know george you realize

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that he does have a very kind heart and and why you can see through his art that it’s very thoughtful and uh meaningful

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uh with with whatever he takes on so um it’s been it’s been good to know him

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um let’s see here so welcome to uh the exhibit here i am can you see me by

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george little child his cree name is and i’m my cree is not very good i am taking a

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cree course online but my crew is still not the greatest but i’ll just try

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uh na na na na kawasis and nagawasas okay which

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means swift child so um and i wish george was here to explain that whole story because it is it’s a

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very interesting story and how it connects to a little child as his last name

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but today we are living canadians are living um in a time of truth and and reconciliation and learning about

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these truths the traumatic experience of indigenous children families and communities who

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have survived the residential school system the work in this exhibition includes

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series of drawings of first nations children’s graves discharge records of those attended residential school in

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musco cheese alberta and um and well i would guess it was formerly known

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as obima the exhibition also includes intimate photographs of georgia’s family members his

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this is actually his mother here her name is rachel so that’s george little child’s mother

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uh and his two uncles actually and so they’re over on this side of the wall between the nun those are his uncles

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photographs or paint pictures of his drawings of his uncles as well

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but we’ll talk a little bit more about that i’m just kind of giving you a little brief here and then we’ll get into a little bit more

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um so after being released at the age of 16 his mom um she was in

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uh ho bima at that time it was called masques today but at the age of 16 she timed out of of

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residential schools so she was allowed to leave and at that time the past system

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um just had been dissolved it was uh in the early 60s when they finally got rid of the past

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system the past system basically was you couldn’t leave the reserve unless you had a pass from the indian agent you had

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to get signed permission to leave you usually carried a little pouch with you that you would

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keep your identification in your number because everyone was given a number

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and your permission slip in a sense that if you were caught outside of the reserve that you could show that you

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were allowed to leave maybe it was to see a doctor maybe it was to see some family members in another part of

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the area so they had to carry this with them so it wasn’t long after that though

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she came out of that experience residential school and she

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decided to come to edmonton she had um a son and unfortunately he

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passed away when he was very young and then had four more children and that’s where george’s family his his brothers

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and sisters come from so from the same family but unfortunately uh i think the struggles

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the traumatic experiences the things that she went through were pretty

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hard to deal with and so turned to alcohol and that became something that basically

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took her took her life in a sense at the age of 37 she passed away

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which is really a really sad story actually you see if i can

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get back to where i am um yeah so his uncles alfred little child and

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louie a little child so that’s these ones over here and maybe i’ll just i want to make sure i have the right ones

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um okay

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i think this is his uncle louie but i’ll just read the caption and it says i draw

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for those who say residential school never happened uncle alfred that’s uncle alfred your life ended because you died

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while young at hermanskin indian residential school unknown causes and that’s the unfortunate part of it is

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that um there is there’s all these deaths but there’s no

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no i no reasoning behind it there’s it just says that they died and so also the

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homage to uncle louis uncle louis little child who died at earman’s canadian residential school 1921 to 1933.

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auntie tilly said he was an artist and nice looking so that was that’s his other uncle that he’s representing there

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so i just wanted you to make sure that you’ve seen that his that’s his family members that were here and that had gone

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through residential school okay

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so the residential school system was a government policy that basically they wanted to rid the indian

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and save the man so taking young children from their family forcibly separating and isolating them from

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their communities and cultures in an attempt to assimilate the people so sadly that

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many many children never returned from these schools they lost their lives at the hands of the so-called well-meaning religious

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figures of authority those who have survived have had to deal with many issues

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from sexual mental emotional and physical abuse for almost 150 years in canada

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from 1863 to as recently as 1998 more than 130 residential schools were

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funded by the canadian government until 1969 69 many of these were ran and

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operated by the church for christian churches so in 2015 a report

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by the truth and reconciliation commission the trc documented 3 200 children who had died

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at residential school but the numbers of death could be 10 times more and as we’re finding out in fact um and so

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it is reverence in reverence we are deeply saddened uh by the recent discovery of over 7 000

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children to date and they’re still counting because they’re still doing the investigations and the um

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penetrate ground penetrating um machines that they have so they’re still

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it’s still ongoing and so we don’t know how what the number will be but it is a

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pretty horrible event and it’s pretty tragic when you think about that um

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so in georgia’s words and it is on the wall but it says i want to give remembrance recognition honor and

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validation to the thousands of innocent children that nobody is able to recognize as they stand amongst their fellow residential

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schools students in the photograph all but forgotten in the museum archival correct

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collections in this manner i seek to legitimize their lives and restore a

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modicum of dignity emoticon sorry of dignity and importance to their short

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existence in the world so um through this

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um exhibit and through george’s works and and the time he took to go through

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the photographs that this is just one of them one of the examples as his mother is in this one that he

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that we have this one in in the gallery but many many photographs that he found of of children that were

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lined up at a school at a residential school and a photograph taken and

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and even many of them we don’t know their names george actually took it upon himself to

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after he was doing all this research at the archives taking these photos ordering the eight by tens he would

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bring them to the elders in muscus and sit down and visit and talk to them and

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ask them if they recognized any of these children and he said that they actually were able

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to identify approximately 85 percent but the rest um

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there’s no names so uh just just a very sad thing and mostly this is due to due

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to the fact that they were given numbers that they had to sew in their clothing

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so um their names they never used their names they were just given a number

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so you know if you can imagine being brought to this school your head is shaved you’re

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you’re doused with white powder for to you know for a fleas

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you’re given basically a uniform to wear you couldn’t wear your own clothes you

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couldn’t speak your own language you couldn’t play any cultural games and heaven forbid if you were caught doing

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some sort of little ceremony that you remembered maybe as a child that you

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basically you were you were punished you were beaten um and sometimes tortured you know to to

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take this out of that person and so and sadly these children

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lost their identity i mean you can’t go through that experience and not um feel

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proud of yourself and and so there’s a lot of shame associated with that my grandmother went to residential school

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and she denied who she was all her life all her life she passed away she would tell people she was ukrainian or french

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or something other because she did not want to be identified as indigenous so

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very very sad time and i’m really hoping that this awareness that this type of of

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um exhibit does bring to light these atrocities but also that

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that there’s people that are still healing from this and so that we can maybe

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have a little bit more understanding and so that we can be a better people

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generally you know i’d say uh speaking okay let me see where am i

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okay [Music] okay so this timely exhibit seeks to

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honor these lost souls so the unknown will be known and not forgotten

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when george was 17 he found out who his mother was where he came from and the tragedies of residential school and the

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system that robbed him the bond of a mother and child george was part of the 60s scoop and

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this is during the 60s that also another tragic um ongoing sort of events

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from the residential school but it was a tragic first-hand knowledge where where children were taken from

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their home separated from their families and put into foster care just one of the impacts of the

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residential school system once he once he found out his beginnings george spent many hours researching and it took him

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um about 11 years he said to actually find all his family that was still um in

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musco cheese at in herman’s skin so it took some time

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and it was in some ways it was in some disbelief he thought he was first nation and found

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out of course his mom was but his father was of um oh

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no i was going to say dutch but it’s not because that’s his his foster parents were a dutch descent

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i can’t remember i’ll have to think about that but his father was non-indigenous and so um but both of

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them unfortunately his both parents suffered from alcohol abuse and so

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um his father wasn’t in the picture and of course his mother was had passed when

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she was 37. his his father they believed he was either it was either suicide or

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some other tragedy that took his life so and he was also young i think he was in his early 50s

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so um let’s see george also talked about

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going to residential school his um and all 12 of their children went to residential school that

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his mom of course is part of the 12 and so

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this is something that when we think about all of it’s it’s um

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it’s kind of an ongoing uh tragedy of of events thank you um

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where children have gone through these experiences come out

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and then um they’re basically they’re they’re lost

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in in many ways so we can see what when you know going through

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and you know you’re you know you never had anyone to tell you that i love you or that you’re doing

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a good job or to get that pat on the back or that hug you know before you go to bed and nobody was there to rescue

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you nobody was there to take care of you is you’re basically alone with all these other children but you didn’t really

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know them um and so it was just a really tragic event and so of what had happened

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and often uh going to bed hungry they ate porridge um every day they weren’t

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they didn’t have a balanced diet it was just um porridge a lot of porridge from what i i

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understand what i’ve i’ve read about too so um so then in the 94 calls to action under

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the heading missing children and burial information these children are finally acknowledged being acknowledged and work

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has begun to recognize and remember these lost souls so under the calls 71-76 i’m just going

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to briefly go through it there’s a lot more to the highlights the mission the commission calls under

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chief coroners and vital statistics agencies that are not provided death records to commissions to make the

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documents available to the national center for truth reconciliation and this center is actually in winnipeg

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they ask that the resources be made available to the center to allow to it to develop and maintain a national

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residential school death registry established by the commission they also asked the federal government to work

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with churches aboriginal communities and former residential school students to establish and maintain an online

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registry of residential school cemeteries included were possible plot maps showing

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the location of residential schools so they’re doing this right now with the the ground penetrating

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graves that they’ve they found so it’s in some ways it’s encouraging because

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now at least we’ll know we’ll have a we’ll have a better idea of what how many lives are lost and then they

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can be taken care of too they ask that churches and aboriginal leaders inform families of the

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children’s burial locations and respond to families wishes for appropriate commemorative ceremonies and markers and

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re re-burial and home communities were requested they asked for the implementation of strategies and

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procedures for the documentation maintenance commemoration and protection of residential school ceremonies

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the commission also asked that the consideration be be given to allow communities to lead the process that

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informa information be sought from survivors and knowledge keepers to develop these tragedies

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lastly they asked the aboriginal protocols that that these protocols be respected

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before any technical uh potentially invasive inspections or investigations be done in these

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ceremonies cemeteries and so protocol meaning that they would probably um

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have some pipe ceremonies or smudging and these kind of things that would would happen

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or take place so let’s just kind of walk around a little bit i’ll talk a little bit about

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the spirit house um yeah maybe no actually we’ll do that at

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the last why don’t we just talk about george’s work for now and we’ll go from here so

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if you notice if you notice that um all of the

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the drawings have there’s not a lot of color and if you know george’s work george has his work is so vibrant and so

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colorful that this is just a really high contrast to what his normal work is and

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when you see his work so um [Music] but it is it is a series on the subject

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matter and that’s why he has painted it or drew and and usually he’s painting so i always want to say painting but uh he

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drew this with pencil mostly and some markers and the things and those kind of things so

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but you’ll notice that there is red around all of the the the people and so this red is

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symbolic of the blood uh the blood lost but also that um in residential school

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that uh that christ was uh died for

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uh for your lives and so this is something that was indoctrinated to these children that they knew that when

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they were going through this residential school system um of course a lot of the crosses you’ll see and most of them they don’t have

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names written on them but they are crosses representing um being in these

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church-run um institutions um we

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when when i asked george and talked about the exhibit and having a red wall

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and i said i just think you know we we need something that’s really bold and and also to

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to reflect and symbolize that the blood lost again

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and and of course uh what it represents for george as well

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um there is some some of them just are saying anti unidentified this one is

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typical unidentified child from the airman’s skin indian residential school and it has a number four so

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he drew these and put numbers to them just in sequence of how he passed

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time and so when it came to displaying them i asked them do you want them changed do you want it separate he said

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no let’s just leave it as uh that way so that people can understand where i started and the progress of how i kept

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going with with all the drawings so that’s why we laid it out just as is but i thought it was interesting when we

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have that number number one number two number three as it goes on that these

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children again weren’t given a name they were just given a number and so they are

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unidentified in this way the doors and the windows that you see

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in his drawings also represent being able to look out but not being

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able to leave and so a longing for their home their their way of life

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so but unfortunately these things were taken away from them

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you’ll also notice that there’s all these little checks that are counting or marking offs and those

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are actually uh um from the priest’s perspective the souls that they’ve saved so uh many many

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checks like house as he has in his drawings uh this one over here

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in particular he has a little oat grains so that’s representing the porridge and

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that’s what they were allowed to eat and given to eat lots of porridge

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um he has the crosses on the side as an x and it’s it’s the wrongs that were

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done and so that’s what is represented in and so more of the crosses without names

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on them that we can see here it says i unidentified grave markers at

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hermanson grave so that’s the same on unidentified grave markers

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again the windows and the doors not being able to leave

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and then there’s there’s this one here and

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and if we notice there’s like little tiny little eggs is what he has here and he

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has one that is blown up identified as a lice so these are nice eggs that he has

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um [Music] i wish he would have i mean i maybe this does sort of look like that child’s hair

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and head has been shaved but when he talks about that powder being thrown on them so that they didn’t have

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to deal with the lice it makes you think of a concentration camp it’s not a school and where children are going to

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learn they’re they’re being kind of locked in and in prison and and they have they’re

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they’re basically there to to work that the girls did cleaned and sewed and the boys did

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outside work so they i mean they did get some education of course but um

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but really it was it was these children that were working and in these labor

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camps in a sense so um this is the the nun that is actually in

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the uh the photograph so he took that um a photograph of the nun and drew her

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here so um she just looks very hard

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mean and not very not very pleasant um he did talk about

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one of the nuns that had taken off her habit and or hadn’t put it on yet and

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she had her head was shaved bald um and because she kept they kept those

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habits on all the time and so the uh children never really got to see them uh

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what they look like without without that on so uh but george did talk about that as an experience that he heard from one

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of the elders um this picture here of one of the priests

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uh some these white strips behind him is actually the

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bones of the children and so that’s what’s represented in this one here

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kind of makes you feel sick actually if you think about it so it’s not a not a very pleasant

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thought but this is father pierre mullen bringer of souls to jesus and god

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they talk about he he went to the elders and had a visit with them and and

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the elders told him how when he first arrived he was a very slim tall man and

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then as the years went by and he was at the residential school he said he was he was he became very overweight and he

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said there was he had a big belly and yet the children went to bed you know hungry and yet the priest and

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you know were of course had to have been indulging somewhere to i mean he wasn’t starving obviously so

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um just kind of sad when you think about that too um so these are the the um

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discharge papers that george found this is not his writing he basically drew it

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as it was from these um these books discharge books

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but he says the remarks he says he started noticing something that through them

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the reason why they they laughed with their grade their age their and why they left so

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some of there was lots that timed over but they were sickly lots of sickly and then he started noticing that there was

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a lot that said dead or died death but there was no reason beside it it just said they died so um

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and that’s what i mentioned earlier which was unfortunate that and so through this um he did

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drew this one with tears so there’s tears on this on this um discharge paper

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here so and unfortunately this one there’s one too and this is just a few little

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samples of it but one two three four five on this one that

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says dead so you can imagine how many more thousands have died

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so the last ones here we have and george said he had to take some

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pauses in between i forgot to ask him i really should have asked but i wondered how long it actually took him from start

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to finish uh when he started this series but he said he had to take breaks he had to go and and re sort of cleanse himself

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rejuvenate himself a little bit because it was it’s very heavy work and when you’re doing all this research and you’re going

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through all this and then you have to you’re internalizing it so that you can uh

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bring it back out to draw what he did here and so um it did take

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some time and it took a lot out of him in a sense because it’s um just the subject matter itself is just

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heart heart-wrenching so these last two the of the the young boys here are of his

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his relatives again this is his uncles uh and they unfortunately died in

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residential school as children so just very tragic um when you think about it

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it just makes you want to well i i have actually cried over it so it is very sad so this

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one here as is called sister nun the problem and and the young girl here crying red tears uh

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down her face so um and all the arrows pointing at the nun so it’s just

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that um sort of come to that realization that um

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it was they thought they were doing good they in a sense they felt that they were

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doing what was right that they were taking these children these savage little beings and they were going to

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make them christians and so you know it’s it’s hard to think of it that way because but that’s what they

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they believe that they were doing the right thing and um sadly there is

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such um um [Music] well it’s it’s uh it’s been a

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perpetuating sort of um what do you call that my brain isn’t thinking here but um

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uh where it’s ongoing that you know sadly these ones like his mother she

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turned to alcohol abuse and that took her life and then um some of you know the the

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children after that also had some some issues and just dealing with all these things uh has

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been uh a hardship but it but we’re we’re all still healing um

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not everyone has gone that down that dark road as as uh george says art saved his life um

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without being creative he doesn’t know where he would have been but art really was something that kept

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him grounded and he was able to express himself and find himself through art so

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we can be happy about that so because we know there’s many many more that um

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indigenous young peoples that have come through that and that healing process and in a creative way so

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um i think that’s kind of it for my oh right i didn’t want to talk about this the spirit house before before we

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leave i’ll talk about that a little bit and then and then we’re gonna be done so this

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when i was talking to george about the exhibit um

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i when i was a little little girl i was about three four years old i was really little i was

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with my dad and we were um we were at a river i don’t remember much i just remember

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being we were up north we lived up north in fort mcmurray actually my dad took a job up north we actually

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had to fly there there was no roads at that time it was a long time ago i know

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don’t think about that but so i remember just this being by the river

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with my dad and i went there was these little houses and i went to investigate of course i dad was busy talking to

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people and i went and i just remember putting my hand in trying to reach because there’s a little hole on the the

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one side and uh and i was trying to reach what was ever in there and i see

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little books i just have these little tiny memories of that and uh

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and so i remember my dad showing me away and telling me to get out of there and and not to bother it but then as i found

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out later that this is actually called a spirit house and it is something that is done um

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indigenous peoples all over the country have different ways of of looking after their their loved ones when they pass

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but this is one example of a people from up north from the anishinaabe people and also in southern

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in the states where they do have these spirit houses um and it is really to protect the body and so this until the

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soul has a chance to uh pass on into the the spirit world and so there is um

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a little little hole on the west side it’s always facing west and so that’s where that

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soul is able to leave through and also that you can leave offerings all

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things like little books or or tools or or trinkets or things like that that that

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person may have liked and so that’s where they were um kept and so this

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because um i talked to george about it and i said i just think it would be really interesting to have something like that

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here because this was a protection this protected um that that being that person

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that was had passed and their bodies were protected here and unfortunately

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the children in residential schools were not protected and so this is kind of that symbolism of giving

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them protection again so this is why uh we decided when i i talked in

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conversation with george that that we would have this in the center this was not part of his exhibition this is

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something i brought to to george and asked him if it was okay and he actually really liked the idea

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and so um we had this one built here in in the

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uh at the at the art gallery here and so this is basically what they look like and

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um that’s kind of it when it comes to that so i just thought it was

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just having that symbolism here of of the protection again for those young ones so but that’s um my tour for today thank

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you all for being here i really appreciate that there is some people in the audience and i was worried about

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that but thank

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