[Lab] Lab Digest, Vol 18, Issue 18

Darcy Whyte darcy at siteware.com
Thu Aug 11 11:06:55 EDT 2011


That's an interesting idea to use a mold in order to get more degrees of
freedom. A makerbot is pretty agile in that sense too. It can even print
features inside of a closed solid.



On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:51 AM, John Nicol <john_nicol at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 3D Boobs. I love this group!  You might also consider maybe machining a 3D
> mold and molding something out of silicon?  You could also get an undercut
> by doing a two piece mold if you don't have access to a 4-axis CNC.
>
> For the Turtle Racer: I have mentioned this before in the group, but
> thought
> I would reprise.  If Hobby King are shipping from the US and the shipping
> is
> exorbitant, suggest getting a Kinek account and shipping to Ogdensburg.
> Picking up and paying for duty at customs can be a lot cheaper sometimes
> than shipping direct if items are coming from the US.  I was also able to
> get a McMaster Carr shipment to my US address this way.  If you do a bulk
> order this would probably work.
>
>
>
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>   1. sketchup and boobs (Darcy Whyte)
>   2. Re: sketchup and boobs (Andrew Plumb)
>   3. Re: sketchup and boobs (Darcy Whyte)
>   4. Re: sketchup and boobs (Darcy Whyte)
>   5. Re: mario kart shell (Jean-Marc LeBlanc)
>   6. Re: mario kart shell (Paul & Andrea Mumby)
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> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 20:33:41 -0400
> From: Darcy Whyte <darcy at siteware.com>
> Subject: [Lab] sketchup and boobs
> To: lab <lab at artengine.ca>
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> I think I mentioned I had a friend that had her boobs reduced and I wanted
> to make her something for her that was a little silly.
>
> I think boob-bookends might be nice.
>
> I need some help from someone who's a bit better at Sketchup than me.
>
> I've got the some boobs in Sketchup but I'm having a hard time since I'm a
> little less familiar with 3d stuff. I'm a bit better at 2.5D.
>
> Anybody can help?
>
> Darcy
> http://Mambohead.com
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> From: Andrew Plumb <andrew at plumb.org>
> Subject: Re: [Lab] sketchup and boobs
> To: Darcy Whyte <darcy at siteware.com>
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> You might be able to use Make Human as a parametric starting point for your
> model:
>
> http://www.makehuman.org/
>
> Andrew.
>
> On 2011-08-10, at 8:33 PM, Darcy Whyte wrote:
>
> > I think I mentioned I had a friend that had her boobs reduced and I
> wanted
> to make her something for her that was a little silly.
> >
> > I think boob-bookends might be nice.
> >
> > I need some help from someone who's a bit better at Sketchup than me.
> >
> > I've got the some boobs in Sketchup but I'm having a hard time since I'm
> a
> little less familiar with 3d stuff. I'm a bit better at 2.5D.
> >
> > Anybody can help?
> >
> > Darcy
> > http://Mambohead.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> --
>
> "The future is already here.  It's just not very evenly distributed" --
> William Gibson
>
> Me: http://clothbot.com/wiki/
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:00:11 -0400
> From: Darcy Whyte <darcy at siteware.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lab] sketchup and boobs
> To: Andrew Plumb <andrew at plumb.org>
> Cc: lab <lab at artengine.ca>
> Message-ID:
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> I've already got lots of boobs, I'm just having a bit of trouble moving
> them
> around and manipulating them.
>
> :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Andrew Plumb <andrew at plumb.org> wrote:
>
> > You might be able to use Make Human as a parametric starting point for
> your
> > model:
> >
> > http://www.makehuman.org/
> >
> > Andrew.
> >
> > On 2011-08-10, at 8:33 PM, Darcy Whyte wrote:
> >
> > > I think I mentioned I had a friend that had her boobs reduced and I
> > wanted to make her something for her that was a little silly.
> > >
> > > I think boob-bookends might be nice.
> > >
> > > I need some help from someone who's a bit better at Sketchup than me.
> > >
> > > I've got the some boobs in Sketchup but I'm having a hard time since
> I'm
> > a little less familiar with 3d stuff. I'm a bit better at 2.5D.
> > >
> > > Anybody can help?
> > >
> > > Darcy
> > > http://Mambohead.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Lab at artengine.ca
> > > http://artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/lab
> >
> > --
> >
> > "The future is already here.  It's just not very evenly distributed" --
> > William Gibson
> >
> > Me: http://clothbot.com/wiki/
> >
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> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:12:18 -0400
> From: Darcy Whyte <darcy at siteware.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lab] sketchup and boobs
> To: Andrew Plumb <andrew at plumb.org>
> Cc: lab <lab at artengine.ca>
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> Part of the issue is that most of the boobs require 4-axis or more. I have
> a
> plan of changing things around to work with 3-axis CNC.
>
> I just need to sit with somebody for 20m that knows sketchup better than
> me.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Darcy Whyte <darcy at siteware.com> wrote:
>
> > I've already got lots of boobs, I'm just having a bit of trouble moving
> > them around and manipulating them.
> >
> > :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Andrew Plumb <andrew at plumb.org> wrote:
> >
> >> You might be able to use Make Human as a parametric starting point for
> >> your model:
> >>
> >> http://www.makehuman.org/
> >>
> >> Andrew.
> >>
> >> On 2011-08-10, at 8:33 PM, Darcy Whyte wrote:
> >>
> >> > I think I mentioned I had a friend that had her boobs reduced and I
> >> wanted to make her something for her that was a little silly.
> >> >
> >> > I think boob-bookends might be nice.
> >> >
> >> > I need some help from someone who's a bit better at Sketchup than me.
> >> >
> >> > I've got the some boobs in Sketchup but I'm having a hard time since
> I'm
> >> a little less familiar with 3d stuff. I'm a bit better at 2.5D.
> >> >
> >> > Anybody can help?
> >> >
> >> > Darcy
> >> > http://Mambohead.com
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Lab mailing list
> >> > Lab at artengine.ca
> >> > http://artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/lab
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> "The future is already here.  It's just not very evenly distributed" --
> >> William Gibson
> >>
> >> Me: http://clothbot.com/wiki/
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> http://artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/lab
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> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:47:57 -0400
> From: Jean-Marc LeBlanc <jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lab] mario kart shell
> To: "Paul & Andrea Mumby" <themumbys at gmail.com>
> Cc: lab at artengine.ca
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> Sweet thanks allot for the break down.  I think this means i will be
> making one of these lol
>
> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
> ---
>
> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and
> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Paul & Andrea Mumby <themumbys at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Also note, this assumes no botched parts... If you botch a print, then
> you
> > will need to re-print that part. Which can cost a lot of plastic (since
> the
> > longer the print, the higher the chance of blowing it, so the largest
> parts
> > are the most likely to botch). That said you could print the whole set
> > without screwing a single part up if your printer is tuned well and
> working
> > well. Just pointing this out.
> > - Paul
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Paul & Andrea Mumby <themumbys at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> First let me say, thank you for pointing this thing out to me... I
> totally
> >> want to build one now lol...
> >> Here are the estimates based on the UP software's print preview
> function.
> >> (which I've found to be very accurate)
> >> Now keep in mind that this is based on printing on an UP, using my
> current
> >> settings (with loose infill). And using ABS.
> >> You might want to use solid infill for some of these parts for
> structural
> >> strength, luckily it's most likely the smaller parts that need to be
> solid.
> >> Anyway, I've rounded up to the nearest gram on each of these.
> >> Spikes: 21g
> >> Drive Gear: 3g
> >> Front Suspension: 7g
> >> Gear 1&3: 4g
> >> Gear 2: 6g
> >> Gearbox Body: 9g
> >> Gearbox Bracket: 3g
> >> Gearbox Latch: 2g
> >> Rear Axle Bracket: 4g
> >> Rear Wheel: 12g x2
> >> Shell Back A: 65g
> >> Shell Back B: 64g
> >> Shell Front A: 51g
> >> Shell Front B: 51g
> >> Shell Top A: 27g x2
> >> Shell Top B: 27g x2
> >> Steering Linkage: 1g
> >> Wings: 44g
> >> That comes out to 467g for the whole set.
> >> I would guess 500g would be a safe bet.
> >> For the UP, a 750g spool costs about $50 shipped. For a makerbot,
> >> ultimaker or reprap, using PLA, a 5lb spool costs about $90 shipped.
> >> So... $33.33 in plastic for the UP method...
> >> And about $19.85 in plastic for Reprap/makerbot/ultimaker
> >> That's of course an estimate. Your print software settings can heavily
> >> affect the amount of plastic a given part consumes.
> >> Hope that helps.
> >> - Paul
> >> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc
> >> <jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> how much do you think it would cost from the plastic to make these
> >>> mario kart shells
> >>>
> >>>
>
> http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2011/08/05/turtle-shell-racer-%E2%80%93-high-po
> wer-edition-by-skimbal/
> >>>
> >>> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
> >>> ---
> >>>
> >>> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and
> >>> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Lab mailing list
> >>> Lab at artengine.ca
> >>> http://artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/lab
> >>
> >
> >
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:51:20 -0400
> From: "Paul & Andrea Mumby" <themumbys at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lab] mario kart shell
> To: Jean-Marc LeBlanc <jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com>
> Cc: lab at artengine.ca
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> I also recently broke down the electronics costs as well, based on all
> hobby
> gear from hobbyking (rather than splitting it up as per his electronics
> document) cost is a little more, but more convenience (and it's likely
> overkill for this application). Also some of the parts he calls for in his
> doc are no longer in stock.
>
> ESC - $25 -
>
> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__14634__Turnigy_TrackStar_1_10th_S
> cale_60A_Car_ESC.html
> Motor - $13 -
>
> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__15185__S2445_3200_Brushless_Inrun
> ner_3200kv_.html
> Battery - $14 -
> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8912
> Servo - $3 -
>
> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__662__HXT900_9g_1_6kg_12sec_Micro_
> Servo.html
> Radio - $20 -
>
> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__12177__HK_300_3_Channel_2_4ghz_FH
> SS_Ground_Radio.html
>
> All in electronics cost: $75 (plus shipping from china)
>
> I'll be buying at least one set or two. And I know a couple others might be
> interested. So if you like we can do a combine order for parts for a bunch
> of these to save on shipping cost.
>
> Let me know.
>
> - Paul
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc <
> jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sweet thanks allot for the break down.  I think this means i will be
> > making one of these lol
> >
> > Jean-Marc Le Blanc
> > ---
> >
> > "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and
> > wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Paul & Andrea Mumby <themumbys at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Also note, this assumes no botched parts... If you botch a print, then
> > you
> > > will need to re-print that part. Which can cost a lot of plastic (since
> > the
> > > longer the print, the higher the chance of blowing it, so the largest
> > parts
> > > are the most likely to botch). That said you could print the whole set
> > > without screwing a single part up if your printer is tuned well and
> > working
> > > well. Just pointing this out.
> > > - Paul
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Paul & Andrea Mumby <
> themumbys at gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> First let me say, thank you for pointing this thing out to me... I
> > totally
> > >> want to build one now lol...
> > >> Here are the estimates based on the UP software's print preview
> > function.
> > >> (which I've found to be very accurate)
> > >> Now keep in mind that this is based on printing on an UP, using my
> > current
> > >> settings (with loose infill). And using ABS.
> > >> You might want to use solid infill for some of these parts for
> > structural
> > >> strength, luckily it's most likely the smaller parts that need to be
> > solid.
> > >> Anyway, I've rounded up to the nearest gram on each of these.
> > >> Spikes: 21g
> > >> Drive Gear: 3g
> > >> Front Suspension: 7g
> > >> Gear 1&3: 4g
> > >> Gear 2: 6g
> > >> Gearbox Body: 9g
> > >> Gearbox Bracket: 3g
> > >> Gearbox Latch: 2g
> > >> Rear Axle Bracket: 4g
> > >> Rear Wheel: 12g x2
> > >> Shell Back A: 65g
> > >> Shell Back B: 64g
> > >> Shell Front A: 51g
> > >> Shell Front B: 51g
> > >> Shell Top A: 27g x2
> > >> Shell Top B: 27g x2
> > >> Steering Linkage: 1g
> > >> Wings: 44g
> > >> That comes out to 467g for the whole set.
> > >> I would guess 500g would be a safe bet.
> > >> For the UP, a 750g spool costs about $50 shipped. For a makerbot,
> > >> ultimaker or reprap, using PLA, a 5lb spool costs about $90 shipped.
> > >> So... $33.33 in plastic for the UP method...
> > >> And about $19.85 in plastic for Reprap/makerbot/ultimaker
> > >> That's of course an estimate. Your print software settings can heavily
> > >> affect the amount of plastic a given part consumes.
> > >> Hope that helps.
> > >> - Paul
> > >> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc
> > >> <jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> how much do you think it would cost from the plastic to make these
> > >>> mario kart shells
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
>
> http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2011/08/05/turtle-shell-racer-%E2%80%93-high-po
> wer-edition-by-skimbal/
> > >>>
> > >>> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
> > >>> ---
> > >>>
> > >>> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and
> > >>> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> Lab mailing list
> > >>> Lab at artengine.ca
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
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