[Lab] Makerbot and PCB fabrication

[Jean-Marc LeBlanc]

so the holes don't line up?  do you have pictures of the experiment
for curiosity? could it be something that we could take in
consideration in software? it should be to hard to calculate where to
find the dots from your picture or an eagle file (xml now)

Jean-Marc Le Blanc
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"Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and
wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds




On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:15 PM, krazatchu . <krazatchu at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Etching first with toner transfer and drilling after with NC file doesn't
> work well...
> The laser print for toner transfer isn't very accurate, I made up a test
> page and tried a few different printers to the same effect...
> Most had non-linear in-accuracy...
>
> Michael
>
>> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 13:14:16 -0500
>> From: jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com
>> To: tom.i.burns at gmail.com
>> CC: lab at artengine.ca
>> Subject: Re: [Lab] Makerbot and PCB fabrication
>>
>> sorry for asking like 2000 questions lol but I am thinking of building
>> I hate drilling the holes lol. Do you know what software they are
>> using?
>>
>> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
>> ---
>>
>> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and
>> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Tom Burns <tom.i.burns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Yes, the 9.1 or as close to it as those resources will get us.
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc
>> > <jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> is the mantis the one you are building?
>> >>
>> >> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
>> >> ---
>> >>
>> >> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and
>> >> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Tom Burns <tom.i.burns at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > BOM: http://makeyourbot.org/local--files/mantis9-1/bom-9.xls
>> >> > DXF (haven't opened this but I'm assuming it's the design file for
>> >> > all
>> >> > wood
>> >> > parts):
>> >> > http://makeyourbot.wdfiles.com/local--files/mantis9-1/mantis9.1.dxf
>> >> > video series on how to build it: http://makeyourbot.org/mantis9-build
>> >> >
>> >> > Tom
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc
>> >> > <jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> yeah I think that is more what I would do.
>> >> >> does he have a right up on how he made it?  the little motor is it a
>> >> >> drill motor or one that you find in RC cars?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
>> >> >> ---
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and
>> >> >> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Tom Burns <tom.i.burns at gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > No idea.  You'd have to ask the creators.  You could always etch
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > boards
>> >> >> > with a resist-ink method and drill the holes with the bot
>> >> >> > afterwards,
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > you'd obviously have to take care to align it properly.  Maybe
>> >> >> > drill
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > holes first then line up the transfer with the holes?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > For <$100 I don't expect this CNC to do everything but it's a huge
>> >> >> > step
>> >> >> > forward from not having one at all.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Tom
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc
>> >> >> > <jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> think that would be precise enough to make traces for surface
>> >> >> >> mount?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
>> >> >> >> ---
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Tom Burns
>> >> >> >> <tom.i.burns at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Yup!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlDpZl-QIAA&feature=player_embedded
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Tom
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc
>> >> >> >> > <jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Does this actualy make the traces too?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
>> >> >> >> >> ---
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men
>> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Tom Burns
>> >> >> >> >> <tom.i.burns at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > PCB fabrication is why I'm gathering people interested in
>> >> >> >> >> > building
>> >> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> >> > very
>> >> >> >> >> > small, cheap CNC.  For under $100 you can get all the parts
>> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> > build
>> >> >> >> >> > it.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Read more here:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > http://makeyourbot.org/mantis9-1
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Currently the plan is to begin ordering parts as of January.
>> >> >> >> >> > If
>> >> >> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> >> > want to
>> >> >> >> >> > buy the parts let me know and I'll contact you when we're
>> >> >> >> >> > ready
>> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> > place
>> >> >> >> >> > an
>> >> >> >> >> > order.  Many of the parts in the BOM only have McMaster
>> >> >> >> >> > references
>> >> >> >> >> > so
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > current plan is to ship them to NY and pick them up at the
>> >> >> >> >> > UPS
>> >> >> >> >> > store
>> >> >> >> >> > (as
>> >> >> >> >> > mentioned on list previously).
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >> >> >> > Tom
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Andrew Plumb
>> >> >> >> >> > <andrew at plumb.org>
>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> It can be done (see
>> >> >> >> >> >> http://wiki.makerbot.com/makerbot-mill),
>> >> >> >> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> >> >> you'll
>> >> >> >> >> >> need to use some sort of sacrificial layer and a solid
>> >> >> >> >> >> steel
>> >> >> >> >> >> plate
>> >> >> >> >> >> underneath so you don't destroy the XY platform.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Andrew.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> On 2010-11-09, at 9:19 AM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Hey guys,
>> >> >> >> >> >> > I am getting annoyed with drilling my holes in my pcb
>> >> >> >> >> >> > boards
>> >> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> > tining them. I was wondering if some one knew if this
>> >> >> >> >> >> > could
>> >> >> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> >> >> > done
>> >> >> >> >> >> > with the maker bot?  If the maker bot follows standard
>> >> >> >> >> >> > CNC
>> >> >> >> >> >> > commands
>> >> >> >> >> >> > this would not be too hard I suppose to program.  I think
>> >> >> >> >> >> > It
>> >> >> >> >> >> > was
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Andrew who said he put a dremel head on his maker bot.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >  As
>> >> >> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> >> >> > tining,
>> >> >> >> >> >> > maybe put a hot plate on the base and melt some tin on
>> >> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > base?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >  the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > tining is not too important thought. I don't usually do
>> >> >> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> >> >> > step
>> >> >> >> >> >> > since its long and I don't find it worth it.  Maybe an
>> >> >> >> >> >> > alternative?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Jean-Marc Le Blanc
>> >> >> >> >> >> > ---
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men
>> >> >> >> >> >> > were
>> >> >> >> >> >> > men
>> >> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >> >> >> "The future is already here.  It's just not very evenly
>> >> >> >> >> >> distributed"
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
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