[Lab] Makerbot and PCB fabrication

Tue Nov 9 13:15:32 EST 2010

Etching first with toner transfer and drilling after with NC file doesn't work well...

The laser print for toner transfer isn't very accurate, I made up a test
 page and tried a few different printers to the same effect...

Most had non-linear in-accuracy... 

Michael

> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 13:14:16 -0500
> From: jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com
> To: tom.i.burns at gmail.com
> CC: lab at artengine.ca
> Subject: Re: [Lab] Makerbot and PCB fabrication
> 
> sorry for asking like 2000 questions lol but I am thinking of building
> I hate drilling the holes lol.  Do you know what software they are
> using?
> 
> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
> ---
> 
> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and
> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Tom Burns <tom.i.burns at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes, the 9.1 or as close to it as those resources will get us.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc
> > <jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> is the mantis the one you are building?
> >>
> >> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
> >> ---
> >>
> >> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and
> >> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Tom Burns <tom.i.burns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > BOM: http://makeyourbot.org/local--files/mantis9-1/bom-9.xls
> >> > DXF (haven't opened this but I'm assuming it's the design file for all
> >> > wood
> >> > parts):
> >> > http://makeyourbot.wdfiles.com/local--files/mantis9-1/mantis9.1.dxf
> >> > video series on how to build it: http://makeyourbot.org/mantis9-build
> >> >
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc
> >> > <jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> yeah I think that is more what I would do.
> >> >> does he have a right up on how he made it?  the little motor is it a
> >> >> drill motor or one that you find in RC cars?
> >> >>
> >> >> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
> >> >> ---
> >> >>
> >> >> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and
> >> >> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Tom Burns <tom.i.burns at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > No idea.  You'd have to ask the creators.  You could always etch the
> >> >> > boards
> >> >> > with a resist-ink method and drill the holes with the bot afterwards,
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > you'd obviously have to take care to align it properly.  Maybe drill
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > holes first then line up the transfer with the holes?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > For <$100 I don't expect this CNC to do everything but it's a huge
> >> >> > step
> >> >> > forward from not having one at all.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Tom
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc
> >> >> > <jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> think that would be precise enough to make traces for surface mount?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
> >> >> >> ---
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and
> >> >> >> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Tom Burns <tom.i.burns at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Yup!
> >> >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlDpZl-QIAA&feature=player_embedded
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Tom
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc
> >> >> >> > <jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Does this actualy make the traces too?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
> >> >> >> >> ---
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Tom Burns <tom.i.burns at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > PCB fabrication is why I'm gathering people interested in
> >> >> >> >> > building
> >> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> >> > very
> >> >> >> >> > small, cheap CNC.  For under $100 you can get all the parts to
> >> >> >> >> > build
> >> >> >> >> > it.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Read more here:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > http://makeyourbot.org/mantis9-1
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Currently the plan is to begin ordering parts as of January.
> >> >> >> >> > If
> >> >> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> >> > want to
> >> >> >> >> > buy the parts let me know and I'll contact you when we're ready
> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> > place
> >> >> >> >> > an
> >> >> >> >> > order.  Many of the parts in the BOM only have McMaster
> >> >> >> >> > references
> >> >> >> >> > so
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > current plan is to ship them to NY and pick them up at the UPS
> >> >> >> >> > store
> >> >> >> >> > (as
> >> >> >> >> > mentioned on list previously).
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Cheers,
> >> >> >> >> > Tom
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Andrew Plumb <andrew at plumb.org>
> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> It can be done (see http://wiki.makerbot.com/makerbot-mill),
> >> >> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> >> >> you'll
> >> >> >> >> >> need to use some sort of sacrificial layer and a solid steel
> >> >> >> >> >> plate
> >> >> >> >> >> underneath so you don't destroy the XY platform.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Andrew.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> On 2010-11-09, at 9:19 AM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Hey guys,
> >> >> >> >> >> > I am getting annoyed with drilling my holes in my pcb boards
> >> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> >> > tining them. I was wondering if some one knew if this could
> >> >> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> >> >> > done
> >> >> >> >> >> > with the maker bot?  If the maker bot follows standard CNC
> >> >> >> >> >> > commands
> >> >> >> >> >> > this would not be too hard I suppose to program.  I think It
> >> >> >> >> >> > was
> >> >> >> >> >> > Andrew who said he put a dremel head on his maker bot.  As
> >> >> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> >> >> > tining,
> >> >> >> >> >> > maybe put a hot plate on the base and melt some tin on the
> >> >> >> >> >> > base?
> >> >> >> >> >> >  the
> >> >> >> >> >> > tining is not too important thought. I don't usually do that
> >> >> >> >> >> > step
> >> >> >> >> >> > since its long and I don't find it worth it.  Maybe an
> >> >> >> >> >> > alternative?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Jean-Marc Le Blanc
> >> >> >> >> >> > ---
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were
> >> >> >> >> >> > men
> >> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
> >> >> >> >> >> >
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> >> >> >> >> >> "The future is already here.  It's just not very evenly
> >> >> >> >> >> distributed"
> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >> William Gibson
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Me: http://clothbot.com/wiki/
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