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<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Curiously, Uber and Lyft seem to have increased traffic density & slowed traffic -
drivers have to stay near possible fares, parking costs money, and roads are "free". </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Would this change with autonomous cars? </span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Tracking cars facilitates charging for road use....</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G"><span style=" font-size:12pt">Or maybe everyone will stay home online to work online?</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G"><span style=" font-size:12pt">--tom</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G"><span style=" font-size:12pt">On 11 Aug 2018 at 4:54 re:"Re: [Lab] AVIS exploring a new busi..."</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> David @ ProjectWorkshop(David @ ProjectWorkshop
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<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> Very interesting. I have always thought the individual automatic car concept made </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> sense. It could work like public transport, with shared vehicles, but still meet exact </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> point to point movement that people desire. I would also think individuals could still </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> own their own if they like, so as to be able to keep their “stuff” with them (I might like </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> that myself), and/or have a customized travel cab/environment, but the vehicle would </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> otherwise still plug-into the same automated travel network and processes. I have </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> talked about this stuff over beers with friends, and many do not like the idea at all. </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> They want to run the gas and brake, turn the steering wheel, and in many cases be </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> involved in operating the transmission in some way. They want to direct the details of </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> vehicle operation and motion. They like driving.</i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> Anyway, I assume people can find new pastimes while riding, but it will be quite a </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> change for many. I’m for it because I don’t care for driving, but I don’t mind having to </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> drive just around town either, so I also don’t really need it, and I think it will impact me </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> very little...I’ll drive, or I won’t. I don’t think I care. We shall see. (BTW, my partner and I </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> often do the: you drive...no you drive...no you drive, thing, if the drive is any serious </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> distance.)</i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> From: Darcy WhyteSent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 9:04 PMTo: Ryan Stec ; Hack613Cc: labSubject: Re: </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> [Lab] AVIS exploring a new business model - servicingautonomous cars Fascinating... </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> I think antonymous cars are inevitable and they will solve a lot of problems. There are some amazing possibilities. Here are </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> some thoughts/ramble. Eventually I think there could be no signs or lights or even lines on roads. Except perhaps marking </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> places for pedestrians. Cars would just move along and if a pedestrian crosses the road they just stop as long as </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> needed. They'd zipper through intersections or just plan to not have cars arriving that would conflict. Merging would </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> automatically zipper. If an ambulance is moving on a highway, cars would automatically clear a lane for it. Lane direction </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> would auto configure based on volume in each direction. A lane could even serve both directions with some fancy lane </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> changing and coordination. They could drop you right at your destination and then go off to a gig economy of fares or to a </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> parking area far away. So without parking in high traffic areas there could be more lanes and better throughput. Also cars </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> could have policy programmed into them (the rules they use for driving). This could be part of status. For instance if you </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> wanted to get somewhere quickly during a peak period you could toot down the highway and cars would get out of your </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> way. The policy of your car would request cars to change lanes. Other cars would have their own policy. Some cars might just </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> get out of your way. Others might need payment to get out of the way. So if you want to get somewhere faster you subsidize </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> some of the rides of people who cleared a lane for you. The higher the price your car policy will pay the more effective it will </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> be at clearing the fast lane. The sense of urgency in driving will go away. Today you see people speeding up to a red light then </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> wasting gas pulling away in a hurry. This may go away since you are not occupied by driving anymore. Safety can increase </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> since nobody's in a rush because the traffic could be very efficient and everybody's conducting their social and other </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> business instead of driving. An extreme example would be going to a party, drinking alcohol then stepping into your car to get </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> home. You'd just sleep while your car gets you home. No rush there. It'd take lower volume and peaceful routes and then </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> wake you when you get home (depending if that's in the policy/rules). Car ownership might become more shared (as most </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> people predict). Imagine how inexpensive a taxi/uber could be if you remove the driver... Cities could also have mini buses that </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> shuttle people around as well. I wonder if buses as we know them with fixed routes and stuff might even become obsolete? </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> Demand driven shuttles could run 24x7. A given route could even interact with a bulk system such as the rail system. You </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> could be dropped off at a rail station if there's a train coming, then when you get off a different vehicle is there waiting for </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> you. There could be integration with bicycles or electric kick scooters. Perhaps some vehicles could carry bicycles somehow. </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> Or there could be shared bicycles too... I food delivery vehicle might be able to operate without an operator. It pulls up and </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> you walk up to it, identify yourself and it lets you take your order/package. Mail delivery, shipping.. christ it seems endless </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> what can happen... This will take quite some time though. I don't think it's around the corner like most do. What is around the </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> corner I think is a mix of the current human driven cars and cars that are fairly autonomous but require human supervision. </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> This is due to the culture around regulations and safety. And as long as there are a lot of human drivers on the road even </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> autonomous cars aren't as safe. If we're lucky municipalities will designate good routes to autonomous cars where full </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> autonomy might be allowed sooner (since there's no humans operating)... Currently peoples' status is partly tied up with their </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> vehicles. Of course I'm not a fan of this but the status aspect may come with expensive driving policies that give higher </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> priorities to road resources. Or ownership so they can have access to a vehicle during peak periods. Another thought I had </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> was safety regulation. Cars could come with different sensor packages and a question is what will be the minimum. For </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> instance some IR vision (or something) might be able to see a deer running through the bush. Even if your car doesn't have a </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> particular sensor on it, it could get the same information from the network. So a car ahead is tooting along and a deer is </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> about to run in front of it. It knows that from it's night vision package. Your car doesn't have the package but it buys the </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> information from the car ahead (based on the policies). Or perhaps it could be mandatory for safety information to be </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> passed along the network. Perhaps it will be worth having he expensive package because you can sell the data to other cars </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> in real time. One way or the other, sooner or later access to cars will be spread out a bit more evenly. It will be safer and </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> greener. The lower end might be municipal networks of shuttles and the higher end might be ownership or fancy-expensive </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> policy in your driving account(s). --Darcy Whyte Art+ inventorArtist.com | Makerspace hack613.com | Aviation </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> rubber-power.comContact: darcy@inventorArtist.com | 613-563-3634 by appointment (no text) On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:20 </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> PM Ryan Stec <ryanstec@artengine.ca> wrote:</i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> Robin Chase, founder of ZipCar talked alot about the role transportation companies will </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> play, given the fleet infrastructure they already have.This is a great panel discussion with Robin </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> Chase and Anthony Townsend which has some great insight.https://youtu.be/ubDQrOkHY1c---</i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> Ryan Stec</i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> Artistic Director</i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> artengine.ca</i></span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> On 2018-06-04 10:47, Jason Cobill wrote:</i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> What's AVIS going to do when autonomous cars and ridesharing put the nail in the coffin on the car </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> rental industry? They have all the experience and facilities to service huge fleets of cars - cleaning, </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> fuelling, and repairing their own huge fleet of vehicles, plus they have parking lots and vehicle </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> charging stations at airports and in urban cores. ... so they're exploring becoming a service provider </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> for autonomous vehicles. After a hard morning of dropping office-workers off, your UBER will drive </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> out to the airport to wait it's turn in line to be shampooed and fuelled up and ready for the next </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> customer. https://www.wired.com/story/avis-ohad-zeira-self-driving-future/ This is super brilliant. How </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> long until every step of the servicing is automated? Robot fuel attendants, robot carpet cleaners. </i></span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Linux Libertine G" color="#7f0000"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><i>> Little robot that drives along with a rag and cleans your rims. :) </i></span></font></div>
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