[Lab] seeking feedback on steppers and spindle for my DIY CNC router
Peter Sjoberg
peters-modlab at techwiz.ca
Mon Nov 14 12:00:06 EST 2016
Well, on 11/11 I did purchase a pile of things and it was so much the
system protested a few times and I had to redo the "buy now" part. In
the end I thought I got it all and that was almost correct, 34 of the
items ended up being ordered twice.
I did quickly try to find all dups and cancel one of them but some where
shipped before I got to cancel them so now I got some extra parts. Most
of it doesn't matter to much since it's not to much and I can use it
but one of the dups someone here might be interested in.
48V 12.5A 600W that I now have two of, if anyone is interested in it you
can have it for $33US
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-quality-48V-12-5A-600W-Switching-Power-Supply-Driver-for-LED-Strip-AC-110V-220V/32648982030.html
Besides that I did also order
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CNC-Machine-400W-BL-Spindle-Motor-DDBLDV1-0-Brushless-DC-Motor-Driver-12000RPM/32570541246.html
and
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Aluminum-Mold-ER11-Spindle-Motor-Mount-Bracket-Clamp-55mm-Diameter/32691981365.html
Should arrive in a week or two and until then I have to create a small
arduino based thing to show RPM based on the pulses coming from the
driver unit. Got most of it working on lab bench, just need to pack it
nicely also.
/ps
On 11/11/16 07:56 AM, Olaf Baumann wrote:
> always learning...
>
> I had not known to look for a speed sensor, thanks for pointing it out.
> I'll do some more research/shopping today.
>
> I've noticed that some ER8 collet models are showing up in my searches.
> I'll have to watch for that too.
>
> I'm not worried about a long shipping delay, I'm sure it will arrive
> before I get my z-axis built :-)
>
> thank you for the information,
> Olaf
>
> --
> Olaf
>
>
> On 10 November 2016 at 10:34, Peter Sjoberg <peters-modlab at techwiz.ca
> <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca>> wrote:
>
> Double checking some things and found two problems
>
> 1 - it's not clear from the ad but it seems like the spindle is 55mm
> (guessing on model and checking elsewhere) while the bracket is 52mm =
> not going to work. A search for "55mm cnc bracket" finds some for $22.10
>
> 2 - that spindle seems to only have 3 wires=no hal sensor=no feedback.
> Not sure but I think having hal sensors is a good thing so I need to
> check for that.
>
> 3 - free shipping = won't have it this year, adding a few $ to get
> faster shipping might be worth it.
>
>
> If you want to have someone else to blame it does exist a complete kit
> for $133.34+$40.53=173.87 at
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CNC-ER11-48V-400W-Air-Cooled-Brushless-Spindle-Motor-Driver-Controller-Motor-Mount-Power-Supply-for/32735111497.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CNC-ER11-48V-400W-Air-Cooled-Brushless-Spindle-Motor-Driver-Controller-Motor-Mount-Power-Supply-for/32735111497.html>
>
> (disclaimer, don't blame me if things doesn't work, do your own research
> and tell me/this list about any issues found)
>
> /ps
>
> On 09/11/16 11:41 AM, Olaf Baumann wrote:
> > Very good shoppping! I think I'll take the same route as well on Friday.
> >
> > I wasn't confident enough to choose a powersupply separately so I was
> > only considering the spindle kits.
> >
> > Thank you for the information,
> > Olaf
> >
> >
> > On 9 November 2016 at 11:17, Peter Sjoberg <peters-modlab at techwiz.ca <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca>
> > <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca>>> wrote:
> >
> > Have looked at spindle options and the way I see it I can get
> >
> > a noisy 500w DC spindle for $80us at
> > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html>
> > <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html>>
> >
> > a less noisy brushless 400W motor for
> > (16.25+15.23)+93.44+10.55=$135.47us
> >
> > Power:
> > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-quality-48V-12-5A-600W-Switching-Power-Supply-Driver-for-LED-Strip-AC-110V-220V/32648982030.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-quality-48V-12-5A-600W-Switching-Power-Supply-Driver-for-LED-Strip-AC-110V-220V/32648982030.html>
> > <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-quality-48V-12-5A-600W-Switching-Power-Supply-Driver-for-LED-Strip-AC-110V-220V/32648982030.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-quality-48V-12-5A-600W-Switching-Power-Supply-Driver-for-LED-Strip-AC-110V-220V/32648982030.html>>
> >
> > Spindle:
> > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/low-noise-brushless-400w-spindle-kit-er11-milling-spindle-motor-mach3-speed-drives-for-DIY-engraving/32705269365.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/low-noise-brushless-400w-spindle-kit-er11-milling-spindle-motor-mach3-speed-drives-for-DIY-engraving/32705269365.html>
> > <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/low-noise-brushless-400w-spindle-kit-er11-milling-spindle-motor-mach3-speed-drives-for-DIY-engraving/32705269365.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/low-noise-brushless-400w-spindle-kit-er11-milling-spindle-motor-mach3-speed-drives-for-DIY-engraving/32705269365.html>>
> >
> > Bracket:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/52mm-CNC-Spindle-Clamp-for-300w-400w-500w-600w-spindle-motor-52-mm-mounts-bracket-with/32693650409.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/52mm-CNC-Spindle-Clamp-for-300w-400w-500w-600w-spindle-motor-52-mm-mounts-bracket-with/32693650409.html>
> > <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/52mm-CNC-Spindle-Clamp-for-300w-400w-500w-600w-spindle-motor-52-mm-mounts-bracket-with/32693650409.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/52mm-CNC-Spindle-Clamp-for-300w-400w-500w-600w-spindle-motor-52-mm-mounts-bracket-with/32693650409.html>>
> >
> > So it's $55us extra for brushless and while it's not double $80 it is a
> > bit more, however I think it's worth the extra $$ and will probably
> > order it on Friday (all prices above are only valid on Friday).
> >
> > /ps
> >
> > On 07/11/16 12:29 AM, Richard Sloan wrote:
> > > I choose silence over all else the brushed are just too noisy!
> > >
> > > R.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 7, 2016 12:03 AM, "Peter Sjoberg" <peters-modlab at techwiz.ca <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca>
> <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca>>
> > > <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca
> <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca>
> > <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca
> <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca>>>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > One quick note, I'm looking for a spindle also and
> currently I
> > have my
> > > eyes on this one
> > >
> >
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html>
> >
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html>>
> > >
> >
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html>
> >
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html>>>
> > > that one is a little more power for a bit less $ and on
> 11/11
> > aliexpress
> > > has the world largest online sale that push it down a
> few more
> > $$ so I
> > > will order it then.
> > >
> > > BTW, I'm also wondering about brush less or not and at
> firs I was
> > > thinking it wasn't that much of a diff in price but then I
> > realized that
> > > the brush less kit came without power so after adding a
> power
> > supply we
> > > talking possible double the price or more.
> > > /ps
> > >
> > > On 06/11/16 09:48 PM, Olaf Baumann wrote:
> > > > Hey there,
> > > >
> > > > I'm making slow but steady progress on my CNC router
> > project. A next
> > > > step is to decide on steppers/driver/power-supply and
> > > > spindle/power-supply options.
> > > >
> > > > For a 30cm x 30cm work area design intended for wood,
> > plastic, and
> > > thin
> > > > aluminium, here is what I have in mind:
> > > >
> > > > stepper: NEMA-23, 270 oz-in, 3A, Wantai 57BYGH633
> > > > driver: TB6560
> > > > power supply: 350W 24VDC
> > > > (kit on aliexpress [1])
> > > >
> > > > ER11 spindle: 400W, 12-48 VDC, 3000-12000 r/min
> > > > power supply: 48VDC
> > > > (kit on aliexpress [2])
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am told that a brushless spindle would be quieter
> and more
> > accurate,
> > > > but at half the price, I think I can get by with a regular
> > brushed DC
> > > > spindle.
> > > >
> > > > The 270 oz-in steppers are stronger than I need. I
> could go
> > with
> > > > smaller NEMA-17 78 oz-in steppers but I want to keep
> my options
> > > open for
> > > > a larger build in the future.
> > > >
> > > > Any feedback on these choices? Also, if anyone has some
> > (similar)
> > > > hardware they no longer need, I'd be open to buying it.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > Olaf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1] stepper kit
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html>
> >
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html>>
> > >
> >
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html>
> >
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html>>>
> > > >
> > > > [2] spindle kit
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html>
> >
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html>>
> > >
> >
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html>
> >
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html
> <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html>>>
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