[Lab] seeking feedback on steppers and spindle for my DIY CNC router

Peter Sjoberg peters-modlab at techwiz.ca
Thu Nov 10 10:34:57 EST 2016


Double checking some things and found two problems

1 - it's not clear from the ad but it seems like the spindle is 55mm
(guessing on model and checking elsewhere) while the bracket is 52mm =
not going to work. A search for "55mm cnc bracket" finds some for $22.10

2 - that spindle seems to only have 3 wires=no hal sensor=no feedback.
Not sure but I think having hal sensors is a good thing so I need to
check for that.

3 - free shipping = won't have it this year, adding a few $ to get
faster shipping might be worth it.


If you want to have someone else to blame it does exist a complete kit
for $133.34+$40.53=173.87 at
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CNC-ER11-48V-400W-Air-Cooled-Brushless-Spindle-Motor-Driver-Controller-Motor-Mount-Power-Supply-for/32735111497.html

(disclaimer, don't blame me if things doesn't work, do your own research
and tell me/this list about any issues found)

/ps

On 09/11/16 11:41 AM, Olaf Baumann wrote:
> Very good shoppping!  I think I'll take the same route as well on Friday.
> 
> I wasn't confident enough to choose a powersupply separately so I was
> only considering the spindle kits.
> 
> Thank you for the information,
> Olaf
> 
> 
> On 9 November 2016 at 11:17, Peter Sjoberg <peters-modlab at techwiz.ca
> <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca>> wrote:
> 
>     Have looked at spindle options and the way I see it I can get
> 
>     a noisy 500w DC spindle for $80us at
>     https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html
>     <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html>
> 
>     a less noisy brushless 400W motor for
>     (16.25+15.23)+93.44+10.55=$135.47us
> 
>     Power:
>     https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-quality-48V-12-5A-600W-Switching-Power-Supply-Driver-for-LED-Strip-AC-110V-220V/32648982030.html
>     <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-quality-48V-12-5A-600W-Switching-Power-Supply-Driver-for-LED-Strip-AC-110V-220V/32648982030.html>
> 
>     Spindle:
>     https://www.aliexpress.com/item/low-noise-brushless-400w-spindle-kit-er11-milling-spindle-motor-mach3-speed-drives-for-DIY-engraving/32705269365.html
>     <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/low-noise-brushless-400w-spindle-kit-er11-milling-spindle-motor-mach3-speed-drives-for-DIY-engraving/32705269365.html>
> 
>     Bracket:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/52mm-CNC-Spindle-Clamp-for-300w-400w-500w-600w-spindle-motor-52-mm-mounts-bracket-with/32693650409.html
>     <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/52mm-CNC-Spindle-Clamp-for-300w-400w-500w-600w-spindle-motor-52-mm-mounts-bracket-with/32693650409.html>
> 
>     So it's $55us extra for brushless and while it's not double $80 it is a
>     bit more, however I think it's worth the extra $$ and will probably
>     order it on Friday (all prices above are only valid on Friday).
> 
>     /ps
> 
>     On 07/11/16 12:29 AM, Richard Sloan wrote:
>     > I choose silence over all else the brushed are just too noisy!
>     >
>     > R.
>     >
>     >
>     > On Nov 7, 2016 12:03 AM, "Peter Sjoberg" <peters-modlab at techwiz.ca <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca>
>     > <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca
>     <mailto:peters-modlab at techwiz.ca>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >     One quick note, I'm looking for a spindle also and currently I
>     have my
>     >     eyes on this one
>     >   
>      https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html
>     <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html>
>     >   
>      <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html
>     <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html>>
>     >     that one is a little more power for a bit less $ and on 11/11
>     aliexpress
>     >     has the world largest online sale that push it down a few more
>     $$ so I
>     >     will order it then.
>     >
>     >     BTW, I'm also wondering about brush less or not and at firs I was
>     >     thinking it wasn't that much of a diff in price but then I
>     realized that
>     >     the brush less kit came without power so after adding a power
>     supply we
>     >     talking possible double the price or more.
>     >     /ps
>     >
>     >     On 06/11/16 09:48 PM, Olaf Baumann wrote:
>     >     > Hey there,
>     >     >
>     >     > I'm making slow but steady progress on my CNC router
>     project.  A next
>     >     > step is to decide on steppers/driver/power-supply and
>     >     > spindle/power-supply options.
>     >     >
>     >     > For a 30cm x 30cm work area design intended for wood,
>     plastic, and
>     >     thin
>     >     > aluminium, here is what I have in mind:
>     >     >
>     >     > stepper: NEMA-23, 270 oz-in, 3A, Wantai 57BYGH633
>     >     > driver: TB6560
>     >     > power supply: 350W 24VDC
>     >     > (kit on aliexpress [1])
>     >     >
>     >     > ER11 spindle: 400W, 12-48 VDC, 3000-12000 r/min
>     >     > power supply: 48VDC
>     >     > (kit on aliexpress [2])
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > I am told that a brushless spindle would be quieter and more
>     accurate,
>     >     > but at half the price, I think I can get by with a regular
>     brushed DC
>     >     > spindle.
>     >     >
>     >     > The 270 oz-in steppers are stronger than I need.  I could go
>     with
>     >     > smaller NEMA-17 78 oz-in steppers but I want to keep my options
>     >     open for
>     >     > a larger build in the future.
>     >     >
>     >     > Any feedback on these choices?  Also, if anyone has some
>     (similar)
>     >     > hardware they no longer need, I'd be open to buying it.
>     >     >
>     >     > regards,
>     >     > Olaf
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > [1] stepper kit
>     >     >
>     >   
>      https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html
>     <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html>
>     >   
>      <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html
>     <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html>>
>     >     >
>     >     > [2] spindle kit
>     >     >
>     >   
>      https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html
>     <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html>
>     >   
>      <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html
>     <https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html>>
>     >     >
>     >     >
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