[Lab] Ahmed's Clock - Discussion

Wed Sep 16 15:27:51 EDT 2015

Very intriguing and timely discussion topic. Lots of jurisdictions trying
to make anti-drone laws; blinking lights and sounds scaring people
everywhere, I can see big potential for problems. Of course, bomb clock kid
had a clock actually made to look like wired timer and sticks of
dynamite...hard to fault the reactions there. I guess it is the same case
of toy guns...kids killed because they Innocently were holding toys that
look like guns.

Now with Bill C-51....

Yes, Maker community should consider doing some media releases to put the
info out there, it wouldn't hurt to counter bad press when ever it happens.
It will get much more restrictive before it gets better, me thinks.

Michael

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Andrew Szeto <andrew.szeto at outlook.com>
wrote:

> Obama himself:
>
> https://twitter.com/potus/status/644193755814342656
>
> Not all is lost haha. Dialog is definitely important though! Strive for
> the best, prepare for the worst.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: anthony.scavarelli at gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:54:15 -0400
> To: jason.cobill at gmail.com
> CC: lab at artengine.ca
> Subject: Re: [Lab] Ahmed's Clock - Discussion
>
>
> This is a really powerful and important topic worth formally discussing
> Human nature and the fear of the unknown is always a tricky thing; and
> also, not to sound too pessimistic, in our corporate-run world once maker
> technology starts competing with the “free market” there will be more
> pressure on the makers and maker technology. I agree with Jason that the
> sooner we start an open dialog about the potential dark side we can be
> better prepared for its possible future.
>
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Jason Cobill <jason.cobill at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>    This is from a while ago, but came up on my twitter feed:
>    https://boingboing.net/2007/09/21/mit-student-arrested.html
>    The story is about an MIT student who wore a light-up hoodie (with an
> exposed breadboard) to the Boston airport to pick up a friend and has guns
> drawn on her.
>    *"She's extremely lucky she followed the instructions or deadly force
> would have been used," Pare told The Associated Press. "And she's lucky to
> be in a cell as opposed to the morgue."*
>
>    How risky is it to leave an exposed lilipad board on your sleeve, or to
> have loose wires hanging from a wearable?
>    How important is the context? Clearly I can get away with something
> hacked together at Maker Faire - could I ride a bus or visit a busy mall
> with a sense of security?
>
>    To be fair, I'm playing devil's advocate a little:
>    I think skin colour is probably a factor in both of the cases I posted.
> As a white middle-aged male I think it's unlikely police are going to shoot
> me for wearing a blinky sweater. Combine a circuit with a hijab though, and
> I'm less optimistic that you'll get an easy pass.
>
>    -Jason Cobill
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Andrew Szeto <andrew.szeto at outlook.com>
> wrote:
>
> Whoa! That's deep stuff Jason. I feel like "camoflouging" maker gadgets
> and products is probably not the right way to go about it. In Ahmed's case,
> it sounds like a bit of paranoia and as his father stated, potentially some
> profiling as well. It's a bit of a shame that the "engineering teacher"
> sort of blew it off too (no pun intended). As opposed to hiding anything, I
> think the best remedy is to keep promoting all the awesomeness and
> innovations. Things like the Maker faire, Darcy's videos and website, Elon
> Musk's projects, help educate folks and puts the movement in the forefront
> of folks' eyes. More of that, better promotion and a strong, fostered
> community with events like high school outreach programs will really help
> foster a love and passion for these types of projects as opposed to the
> fear of the unknown. I'm always super stoked and inspired seeing the
> thought process and emails coming through, but more people championing the
> movement and "dumbing" it down a bit and making it more accessible would
> hopefully help with the future and how these projects are perceived. Just
> my two cents!
>
> Andrew
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:59:55 -0400
> From: jason.cobill at gmail.com
> To: lab at artengine.ca
> Subject: [Lab] Ahmed's Clock - Discussion
>
>
>
>    A cautionary tale about a young maker who's clock was misconstrued as a
> bomb. (There's an #IStandWithAhmed hashtag floating around if you want to
> read the reaction)
>
>
> http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-ninth-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece
>
>    Should we talk about this as a maker community? This actually touches
> on a concern I often have about doing technology projects (especially
> unauthorised ones) in public: that someone's going to misconstrue a project
> for something it's not, which keeps happening (do a search for Boston
> Mooninite to see an example of an entire city shutting down over some
> harmless LED displays).
>    I suspect the day is coming that someone's wearable project gets
> misconstrued for a bomb - already kids are getting shot by police in the US
> for having cell phones in their hands and carrying crock-pots to picnics.
>    This kind of knee-jerk prosecution is definitely having a chilling
> effect on the maker movement, particularly in non-white communities.
>
>    Is the solution to "camouflage" your inventions?
>    Do we have a responsibility to educate the general public about "how to
> read" an electronics project?
>
>    Eventually something like this is going to happen in Ottawa - security
> is getting tighter after the Parliament Hill incident, and we have a
> thriving maker community - someone's going to raise flags for having a
> home-made watch (or a hacked backpack, or a drone, or a blinky hat) in a
> public place. Is anyone preparing statements for this when media comes
> calling for responses? Should we think about a Maker Legal Defense Fund?
>
>    -Jason Cobill
>
>
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