[Lab] yellow jackets and electricity

Michael krazatchu at hotmail.com
Mon Aug 29 11:42:24 EDT 2011


You don't need to detect them at all...
Just use two parallel meshes at a distance of about 3/4 the length of a 
yellow jacket...
With opposing charges on the meshes, the yellow jackets become the 
trigger...

This is not uncommon in Korea for mosquitoes...
http://www.amazon.com/Koolatron-Lentek-Biteshield-RZ02-Electronic/dp/B000H7CUSQ

And be careful with camera flashes, they can really hurt (and kill)...

Michael
http://NoMiDesign.net/
http://krazatchu.ca/


On 8/29/2011 11:31 AM, Darcy Whyte wrote:
> I don't think the Squirrels are reading my blog so we should be okay.
>
> I've already got some parts on order (including a disposable camera to 
> get a zapper out).
>
> I'm a little concerned about how I will detect when they are in 
> contact with the mesh. Perhaps just a motion detector.
>
> I just took some video of the little buggers: 
> http://mambohead.com/2011/08/arduino-bug-zapper-yellow-jacket-removal/
>
> As you can see, they're going up a hole in the ceiling.
>
> The chemical idea might work but can it go uphill into the ceiling? I 
> guess I have to seal the hole after I get rid of them.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Tom Burns <tom.i.burns at gmail.com 
> <mailto:tom.i.burns at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     An Arduino-powered stun gun is not something I would want to fall
>     into the hands of a species as devious as the squirrels ;)
>
>     If it's not high powered enough, and you're not against using
>     chemicals, I dealt with a nasty bee (my fiancee is allergic)
>     problem in my backyard using Raid "One Shot" wasp killer.
>
>     Tom
>
>     On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Darcy Whyte <darcy at siteware.com
>     <mailto:darcy at siteware.com>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Richard,
>
>         Thanks for the note.
>
>         I figured keeping a coil charged might be expensive on the
>         batteries. Seems the next place to go is keeping a capacitor
>         charged. As I mentioned in the blog post, a disposable camera
>         may have enough hardware to do this. May not be as high a
>         voltage but it might work.
>
>         So it just comes down to triggering the high voltage thing.
>
>         I'm all ears on how to trigger it but I figured I could just
>         use an arduino because the labor content may be lower. There
>         might be something that can save some pennies but I think for
>         the pain a community of yellow jackets causes, it's okay if it
>         uses an arduino for a couple days.
>
>         Even if the Squirrels steal it.
>
>         Darcy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>         On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Richard Guy Briggs
>         <rgb at tricolour.net <mailto:rgb at tricolour.net>> wrote:
>
>             On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 01:32:19PM -0700, Darcy Whyte wrote:
>             > What about this angle:
>             >
>             > A motion detector of some sort.
>             > a coil
>             > a relay
>             > a 6v battery
>             > a wire grid over the opening
>             >
>             > When a yellow jacket is detected we charge the coil and
>             then let it
>             > discharge through the grid.
>
>             I think the idea is to keep it charged so that it does its
>             work on
>             contact.
>
>             > The relay is to isolate an arduino from the coil
>             charging action...
>             >
>             > What sort of coil would I need?
>             >
>             > If this will work at all....
>             >
>             > Also, what about detecting the bug when it touches the
>             grid? I suppose the
>             > problem with that is I'd need to isolate it from the
>             arduino somehow since
>             > the high voltage will zap the arduino too....
>
>             Does it really need an arduino, or just a wired power
>             supply and a way
>             of forcing all entering and exiting wasps of touching the
>             charged wires?
>
>             > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Darcy Whyte
>             <darcy at siteware.com <mailto:darcy at siteware.com>> wrote:
>             > > Perhaps this can be DIYed:
>             > > http://www.bugspray.com/catalog/products/page1421.html
>             > >
>             > > I could then just hang the thing near the hole and
>             place some electrodes
>             > > right there.
>
>             I've seen one of those at a friend's cottage.  It is only
>             $10, so it
>             might be worth just buying one to find out how it works
>             and adapt it for
>             automatic use with your wasp nest.  We had one in the
>             floor of our
>             balcony.  It was a nuisance...
>
>             You might want to adapt it with very fine wires brushing
>             around the hole
>             (but if the wire is too fine, it might fuse instead of
>             delivering the
>             intended shock to an insect...)
>
>             > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Darcy Whyte
>             <darcy at siteware.com <mailto:darcy at siteware.com>> wrote:
>             > >> Let's say I have a nasty yellow jacket nest that's
>             starting to cause
>             > >> problems.
>             > >>
>             > >> I've dealt with these in the past when the next is
>             very exposed but this
>             > >> time I only have access to an opening about an inch
>             where they are coming
>             > >> and going.
>             > >>
>             > >> Has anybody ever tried to put some sort of zapper
>             near an entrance? Seems
>             > >> that should be an easy way to get them.
>             > >>
>             > >> A trap seems to take long because they only go into
>             it once in a while so
>             > >> it takes a long while.
>             > >>
>             > >> I figure if I put a couple of electrodes near the
>             hole, they could
>             > >> complete the gap.
>             > >>
>             > >> If this would work, I wonder how many bugs a couple
>             of D-cells could zap?
>
>
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