[Lab] yellow jackets and electricity
Michael
krazatchu at hotmail.com
Mon Aug 29 11:42:24 EDT 2011
You don't need to detect them at all...
Just use two parallel meshes at a distance of about 3/4 the length of a
yellow jacket...
With opposing charges on the meshes, the yellow jackets become the
trigger...
This is not uncommon in Korea for mosquitoes...
http://www.amazon.com/Koolatron-Lentek-Biteshield-RZ02-Electronic/dp/B000H7CUSQ
And be careful with camera flashes, they can really hurt (and kill)...
Michael
http://NoMiDesign.net/
http://krazatchu.ca/
On 8/29/2011 11:31 AM, Darcy Whyte wrote:
> I don't think the Squirrels are reading my blog so we should be okay.
>
> I've already got some parts on order (including a disposable camera to
> get a zapper out).
>
> I'm a little concerned about how I will detect when they are in
> contact with the mesh. Perhaps just a motion detector.
>
> I just took some video of the little buggers:
> http://mambohead.com/2011/08/arduino-bug-zapper-yellow-jacket-removal/
>
> As you can see, they're going up a hole in the ceiling.
>
> The chemical idea might work but can it go uphill into the ceiling? I
> guess I have to seal the hole after I get rid of them.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Tom Burns <tom.i.burns at gmail.com
> <mailto:tom.i.burns at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> An Arduino-powered stun gun is not something I would want to fall
> into the hands of a species as devious as the squirrels ;)
>
> If it's not high powered enough, and you're not against using
> chemicals, I dealt with a nasty bee (my fiancee is allergic)
> problem in my backyard using Raid "One Shot" wasp killer.
>
> Tom
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Darcy Whyte <darcy at siteware.com
> <mailto:darcy at siteware.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> Thanks for the note.
>
> I figured keeping a coil charged might be expensive on the
> batteries. Seems the next place to go is keeping a capacitor
> charged. As I mentioned in the blog post, a disposable camera
> may have enough hardware to do this. May not be as high a
> voltage but it might work.
>
> So it just comes down to triggering the high voltage thing.
>
> I'm all ears on how to trigger it but I figured I could just
> use an arduino because the labor content may be lower. There
> might be something that can save some pennies but I think for
> the pain a community of yellow jackets causes, it's okay if it
> uses an arduino for a couple days.
>
> Even if the Squirrels steal it.
>
> Darcy
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Richard Guy Briggs
> <rgb at tricolour.net <mailto:rgb at tricolour.net>> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 01:32:19PM -0700, Darcy Whyte wrote:
> > What about this angle:
> >
> > A motion detector of some sort.
> > a coil
> > a relay
> > a 6v battery
> > a wire grid over the opening
> >
> > When a yellow jacket is detected we charge the coil and
> then let it
> > discharge through the grid.
>
> I think the idea is to keep it charged so that it does its
> work on
> contact.
>
> > The relay is to isolate an arduino from the coil
> charging action...
> >
> > What sort of coil would I need?
> >
> > If this will work at all....
> >
> > Also, what about detecting the bug when it touches the
> grid? I suppose the
> > problem with that is I'd need to isolate it from the
> arduino somehow since
> > the high voltage will zap the arduino too....
>
> Does it really need an arduino, or just a wired power
> supply and a way
> of forcing all entering and exiting wasps of touching the
> charged wires?
>
> > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Darcy Whyte
> <darcy at siteware.com <mailto:darcy at siteware.com>> wrote:
> > > Perhaps this can be DIYed:
> > > http://www.bugspray.com/catalog/products/page1421.html
> > >
> > > I could then just hang the thing near the hole and
> place some electrodes
> > > right there.
>
> I've seen one of those at a friend's cottage. It is only
> $10, so it
> might be worth just buying one to find out how it works
> and adapt it for
> automatic use with your wasp nest. We had one in the
> floor of our
> balcony. It was a nuisance...
>
> You might want to adapt it with very fine wires brushing
> around the hole
> (but if the wire is too fine, it might fuse instead of
> delivering the
> intended shock to an insect...)
>
> > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Darcy Whyte
> <darcy at siteware.com <mailto:darcy at siteware.com>> wrote:
> > >> Let's say I have a nasty yellow jacket nest that's
> starting to cause
> > >> problems.
> > >>
> > >> I've dealt with these in the past when the next is
> very exposed but this
> > >> time I only have access to an opening about an inch
> where they are coming
> > >> and going.
> > >>
> > >> Has anybody ever tried to put some sort of zapper
> near an entrance? Seems
> > >> that should be an easy way to get them.
> > >>
> > >> A trap seems to take long because they only go into
> it once in a while so
> > >> it takes a long while.
> > >>
> > >> I figure if I put a couple of electrodes near the
> hole, they could
> > >> complete the gap.
> > >>
> > >> If this would work, I wonder how many bugs a couple
> of D-cells could zap?
>
>
> slainte mhath, RGB
>
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