<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace;color:#3333ff">always learning...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace;color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace;color:#3333ff">I had not known to look for a speed sensor, thanks for pointing it out. I'll do some more research/shopping today.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace;color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace;color:#3333ff">I've noticed that some ER8 collet models are showing up in my searches. I'll have to watch for that too.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace;color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace;color:#3333ff">I'm not worried about a long shipping delay, I'm sure it will arrive before I get my z-axis built :-)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace;color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace;color:#3333ff">thank you for the information,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace;color:#3333ff">Olaf</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace;color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace;color:#3333ff">-- </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace;color:#3333ff">Olaf</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace;color:#3333ff"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 November 2016 at 10:34, Peter Sjoberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peters-modlab@techwiz.ca" target="_blank">peters-modlab@techwiz.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Double checking some things and found two problems<br>
<br>
1 - it's not clear from the ad but it seems like the spindle is 55mm<br>
(guessing on model and checking elsewhere) while the bracket is 52mm =<br>
not going to work. A search for "55mm cnc bracket" finds some for $22.10<br>
<br>
2 - that spindle seems to only have 3 wires=no hal sensor=no feedback.<br>
Not sure but I think having hal sensors is a good thing so I need to<br>
check for that.<br>
<br>
3 - free shipping = won't have it this year, adding a few $ to get<br>
faster shipping might be worth it.<br>
<br>
<br>
If you want to have someone else to blame it does exist a complete kit<br>
for $133.34+$40.53=173.87 at<br>
<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CNC-ER11-48V-400W-Air-Cooled-Brushless-Spindle-Motor-Driver-Controller-Motor-Mount-Power-Supply-for/32735111497.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/CNC-ER11-48V-400W-Air-<wbr>Cooled-Brushless-Spindle-<wbr>Motor-Driver-Controller-Motor-<wbr>Mount-Power-Supply-for/<wbr>32735111497.html</a><br>
<br>
(disclaimer, don't blame me if things doesn't work, do your own research<br>
and tell me/this list about any issues found)<br>
<br>
/ps<br>
<span class=""><br>
On 09/11/16 11:41 AM, Olaf Baumann wrote:<br>
> Very good shoppping! I think I'll take the same route as well on Friday.<br>
><br>
> I wasn't confident enough to choose a powersupply separately so I was<br>
> only considering the spindle kits.<br>
><br>
> Thank you for the information,<br>
> Olaf<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 9 November 2016 at 11:17, Peter Sjoberg <<a href="mailto:peters-modlab@techwiz.ca">peters-modlab@techwiz.ca</a><br>
</span><span class="">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peters-modlab@techwiz.ca">peters-modlab@techwiz.<wbr>ca</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Have looked at spindle options and the way I see it I can get<br>
><br>
> a noisy 500w DC spindle for $80us at<br>
> <a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-<wbr>ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-<wbr>Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-<wbr>Supply-speed/32723658779.html</a><br>
> <<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-<wbr>ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-<wbr>Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-<wbr>Supply-speed/32723658779.html</a>><br>
><br>
> a less noisy brushless 400W motor for<br>
> (16.25+15.23)+93.44+10.55=$<wbr>135.47us<br>
><br>
> Power:<br>
> <a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-quality-48V-12-5A-600W-Switching-Power-Supply-Driver-for-LED-Strip-AC-110V-220V/32648982030.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/Best-quality-48V-12-5A-<wbr>600W-Switching-Power-Supply-<wbr>Driver-for-LED-Strip-AC-110V-<wbr>220V/32648982030.html</a><br>
> <<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Best-quality-48V-12-5A-600W-Switching-Power-Supply-Driver-for-LED-Strip-AC-110V-220V/32648982030.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/Best-quality-48V-12-5A-<wbr>600W-Switching-Power-Supply-<wbr>Driver-for-LED-Strip-AC-110V-<wbr>220V/32648982030.html</a>><br>
><br>
> Spindle:<br>
> <a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/low-noise-brushless-400w-spindle-kit-er11-milling-spindle-motor-mach3-speed-drives-for-DIY-engraving/32705269365.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/low-noise-brushless-400w-<wbr>spindle-kit-er11-milling-<wbr>spindle-motor-mach3-speed-<wbr>drives-for-DIY-engraving/<wbr>32705269365.html</a><br>
> <<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/low-noise-brushless-400w-spindle-kit-er11-milling-spindle-motor-mach3-speed-drives-for-DIY-engraving/32705269365.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/low-noise-brushless-400w-<wbr>spindle-kit-er11-milling-<wbr>spindle-motor-mach3-speed-<wbr>drives-for-DIY-engraving/<wbr>32705269365.html</a>><br>
><br>
> Bracket:<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/52mm-CNC-Spindle-Clamp-for-300w-400w-500w-600w-spindle-motor-52-mm-mounts-bracket-with/32693650409.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.<wbr>aliexpress.com/item/52mm-CNC-<wbr>Spindle-Clamp-for-300w-400w-<wbr>500w-600w-spindle-motor-52-mm-<wbr>mounts-bracket-with/<wbr>32693650409.html</a><br>
> <<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/52mm-CNC-Spindle-Clamp-for-300w-400w-500w-600w-spindle-motor-52-mm-mounts-bracket-with/32693650409.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/52mm-CNC-Spindle-Clamp-<wbr>for-300w-400w-500w-600w-<wbr>spindle-motor-52-mm-mounts-<wbr>bracket-with/32693650409.html</a>><br>
><br>
> So it's $55us extra for brushless and while it's not double $80 it is a<br>
> bit more, however I think it's worth the extra $$ and will probably<br>
> order it on Friday (all prices above are only valid on Friday).<br>
><br>
> /ps<br>
><br>
> On 07/11/16 12:29 AM, Richard Sloan wrote:<br>
> > I choose silence over all else the brushed are just too noisy!<br>
> ><br>
> > R.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Nov 7, 2016 12:03 AM, "Peter Sjoberg" <<a href="mailto:peters-modlab@techwiz.ca">peters-modlab@techwiz.ca</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peters-modlab@techwiz.ca">peters-modlab@techwiz.<wbr>ca</a>><br>
</span>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:peters-modlab@techwiz.ca">peters-modlab@techwiz.<wbr>ca</a><br>
<div><div class="h5">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peters-modlab@techwiz.ca">peters-modlab@techwiz.<wbr>ca</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > One quick note, I'm looking for a spindle also and currently I<br>
> have my<br>
> > eyes on this one<br>
> ><br>
> <a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-<wbr>ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-<wbr>Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-<wbr>Supply-speed/32723658779.html</a><br>
> <<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-<wbr>ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-<wbr>Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-<wbr>Supply-speed/32723658779.html</a>><br>
> ><br>
> <<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-<wbr>ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-<wbr>Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-<wbr>Supply-speed/32723658779.html</a><br>
> <<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-Supply-speed/32723658779.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/0-5kw-Air-cooled-spindle-<wbr>ER11-chuck-CNC-500W-Spindle-<wbr>Motor-52mm-clamps-Power-<wbr>Supply-speed/32723658779.html</a>><wbr>><br>
> > that one is a little more power for a bit less $ and on 11/11<br>
> aliexpress<br>
> > has the world largest online sale that push it down a few more<br>
> $$ so I<br>
> > will order it then.<br>
> ><br>
> > BTW, I'm also wondering about brush less or not and at firs I was<br>
> > thinking it wasn't that much of a diff in price but then I<br>
> realized that<br>
> > the brush less kit came without power so after adding a power<br>
> supply we<br>
> > talking possible double the price or more.<br>
> > /ps<br>
> ><br>
> > On 06/11/16 09:48 PM, Olaf Baumann wrote:<br>
> > > Hey there,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I'm making slow but steady progress on my CNC router<br>
> project. A next<br>
> > > step is to decide on steppers/driver/power-supply and<br>
> > > spindle/power-supply options.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > For a 30cm x 30cm work area design intended for wood,<br>
> plastic, and<br>
> > thin<br>
> > > aluminium, here is what I have in mind:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > stepper: NEMA-23, 270 oz-in, 3A, Wantai 57BYGH633<br>
> > > driver: TB6560<br>
> > > power supply: 350W 24VDC<br>
> > > (kit on aliexpress [1])<br>
> > ><br>
> > > ER11 spindle: 400W, 12-48 VDC, 3000-12000 r/min<br>
> > > power supply: 48VDC<br>
> > > (kit on aliexpress [2])<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > I am told that a brushless spindle would be quieter and more<br>
> accurate,<br>
> > > but at half the price, I think I can get by with a regular<br>
> brushed DC<br>
> > > spindle.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > The 270 oz-in steppers are stronger than I need. I could go<br>
> with<br>
> > > smaller NEMA-17 78 oz-in steppers but I want to keep my options<br>
> > open for<br>
> > > a larger build in the future.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Any feedback on these choices? Also, if anyone has some<br>
> (similar)<br>
> > > hardware they no longer need, I'd be open to buying it.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > regards,<br>
> > > Olaf<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > [1] stepper kit<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> <a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-<wbr>Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-<wbr>Axis-Board-3D-Printer/<wbr>32710177767.html</a><br>
> <<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-<wbr>Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-<wbr>Axis-Board-3D-Printer/<wbr>32710177767.html</a>><br>
> ><br>
> <<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-<wbr>Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-<wbr>Axis-Board-3D-Printer/<wbr>32710177767.html</a><br>
> <<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-Axis-Board-3D-Printer/32710177767.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/Free-ship-high-Nema-23-<wbr>Stepper-Motor-270oz-in-3-0A-3-<wbr>Axis-Board-3D-Printer/<wbr>32710177767.html</a>>><br>
> > ><br>
> > > [2] spindle kit<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> <a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-<wbr>DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-<wbr>spindle-motor-DC48V-power-<wbr>switch-ER11/32706401492.html</a><br>
> <<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-<wbr>DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-<wbr>spindle-motor-DC48V-power-<wbr>switch-ER11/32706401492.html</a>><br>
> ><br>
> <<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-<wbr>DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-<wbr>spindle-motor-DC48V-power-<wbr>switch-ER11/32706401492.html</a><br>
> <<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-spindle-motor-DC48V-power-switch-ER11/32706401492.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aliexpress.com/<wbr>item/400W-CNC-spindle-kit-<wbr>DC12-48V-ER11-400W-air-cool-<wbr>spindle-motor-DC48V-power-<wbr>switch-ER11/32706401492.html</a>>><br>
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