<div dir="ltr">I actually keep the water in a small 20L waste bin with holes drilled in the top for water inlet, outlet and pump cord. This helps keep dust and contaminents out. It is stuffed smuggly under the table so tip over is not likely. My bigger worry is the $15 alluminum radiator I installed and the junction points springing a leak.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Darcy Whyte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:darcy@inventorartist.com" target="_blank">darcy@inventorartist.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Yeah but you said it better. :)<div><br></div><div>Tom, come and check out the CNC613 project. If you want to try a job, start coming to our Sunday meetup and learn how to run a job and kaboom, you're cutting...</div><div><br></div><div>The machine was out at Artengine for a bit so artengine, friends and members could have a go at it. Will do another road trip there if there is enough interest...</div><div><br></div><div>I mentioned my cutter. I should mention it's one of the "cheap Chinese" ones. Just slightly less cheap since it's slightly bigger. I think these machines are fine. They're not as turnkey like the epilogue.. You need to be ready to fix stuff. And the water cooling (as Dave says) is pretty scary. I've actually had a mishap with my chiller radiator turning into a pin cushion and dumping all the water. That's probably the least attractive aspect of these machines. In retrospect the chiller sits in a tray. So any slow leak would get caught.... Or do like Dave and use a bucket. They never leak. :) I s'pose one could empty it between use and cover it. To keep dust out an d prevent a spill...</div><div><br></div><div>If the Artengine machine sensor/controller problem gets solved. That could be sweet for the city. It's a shame to have such a nice machine be under utilized... </div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div><div><br></div><div><div>--</div><div>Darcy Whyte</div><div><br></div><div>Art+ <a href="http://inventorartist.com/" target="_blank">inventorArtist.com</a> | Aviation <a href="http://rubber-power.com/" target="_blank">rubber-power.com</a></div><div>Contact: <a href="mailto:darcy@inventorArtist.com" target="_blank">darcy@inventorArtist.com</a> | <a href="tel:613-563-3634" value="+16135633634" target="_blank">613-563-3634</a> by appointment (no text)</div></div></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>
<br></span><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Dave Hunt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@huntgang.com" target="_blank">dave@huntgang.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I guess I should have read the entire thread... Darcy already said everything I did! ;)</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Darcy Whyte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:darcy@inventorartist.com" target="_blank">darcy@inventorartist.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Yeah, that thing is really booked. I think it's an awesome initiative to have a cutter at the library. Too bad it's limited to library hours. <div><br></div><div>You have an excellent suggestion in my opinion. <br><div><br></div><div>I suggested a happy hour numerous times to numerous library staff without any success. I think the concept was a great success in the past when artengine used to have it as part of modlab. I also suggested library-laser orientation sessions could run during those times so it'd be a party much like modlab.</div><div><br></div><div>One thing to consider is a lot of what people use a laser for can be done with a cnc router. Cutting, engraving etc.... They don't need an exhaust and can actually cut more materials. Our shared CNC (cnc613) was cutting aluminum 6061 yesterday. These machines are a bit more hands on than a laser but on the other hand are affordable. The idea behind the cnc613 project is people can learn and try out and decide if they get one for themselves (they're that affordable)...</div><div><br></div><div>Not to poop lasers, I use them all the time... </div><div><br></div><div>One the pay for cut, I think there are lots. I do a bit of that here and there. I know there's another laser at maker space north. I'm sure there are lots of sign companies and prototyping companies that have them. </div><div><br></div><div>Oh, you make a great point with online services. I know lots of people who use them very successfully. No booking, no trips, material procurement is integrated... pretty hard to beat... </div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div><div><br></div><div><div>--</div><div>Darcy Whyte</div><div><br></div><div>Art+ <a href="http://inventorartist.com/" target="_blank">inventorArtist.com</a> | Aviation <a href="http://rubber-power.com/" target="_blank">rubber-power.com</a></div><div>Contact: <a href="mailto:darcy@inventorArtist.com" target="_blank">darcy@inventorArtist.com</a> | <a href="tel:613-563-3634" value="+16135633634" target="_blank">613-563-3634</a> by appointment (no text)</div></div></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>
<br></span><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Jason Cobill <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jason.cobill@gmail.com" target="_blank">jason.cobill@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><br></div> The Imagine Space laser cutter is booked nearly 3 months in advance sometimes - it's amazingly popular. I'm in there often and it's ALWAYS running.<br></div> I don't know how to make it more fair - maybe book a "happy hour" where people can scramble to get quick jobs done in off-peak times?<br></div> I think this speaks highly about the Epilog cutter - it's a great tool and it's easy to use (and robust enough to stand up to 24/7 nonstop cutting).<br><div><div><br></div><div> The uOttawa Maker Space had an Epilog delivered right before they closed for the summer - when they open again in a week or so I hope that takes some of the overflow from the other laser cutters in town. :)<br><br></div><div> I'm surprised that with all of this demand nobody's taken the bull by the horns and set up a for-pay cutting service in Ottawa.<br> Even at just a couple of bucks an hour, an entrepreneur could be swimming in wedding invitations, ukuleles, and wooden gear requests.<br></div><div> I guess you'd be competing with online services, but the turnaround time could be much faster than waiting for a shipment from China.<span><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div> -Jason Cobill<br></div><div><br><br></div></font></span></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Andrew Szeto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew.szeto@outlook.com" target="_blank">andrew.szeto@outlook.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">Also on another note, how crazy busy is the library these days? I try and look for bookings and it just seems booked solid...<br><br> <br><br><br><div><hr>From: <a href="mailto:andrew.szeto@outlook.com" target="_blank">andrew.szeto@outlook.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:steve@envirolaser.com" target="_blank">steve@envirolaser.com</a>; <a href="mailto:lab@artengine.ca" target="_blank">lab@artengine.ca</a><br>Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:44:00 +0000<div><div><br>Subject: Re: [Lab] cheap laser cutters<br><br>
<div dir="ltr">Wicked! Thanks a ton for all the feedback guys and sorry for the late response (was out in bear country all weekend)! with projects on the go, $12k is out of my budget these days unfortunately :( . Any timeframe on a reply from epilog? Also willing to pitch on the fix when it's determined!<div><br></div><div>Cheers!<br>A<br><div><br> <br><br><br><div><hr>From: <a href="mailto:steve@envirolaser.com" target="_blank">steve@envirolaser.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:lab@artengine.ca" target="_blank">lab@artengine.ca</a><br>Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 12:30:15 -0400<br>Subject: Re: [Lab] cheap laser cutters<br><br>
<div dir="ltr">
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<div>As the Ottawa rep for Full Spectrum Laser & Epilog, I’d say that each
company has their pros and cons when it comes to their equipment.</div>
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<div>If you are looking for low cost and excellent cutting capabilities, the
Full Spectrum Laser Hobby and entry level Pro series products are an excellent
value. If you are looking for the highest quality engraving capabilities
and “extras” as standard equipment, then the Epilog tends to have an
advantage. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Of course, the exchange rate will cause an increase in price for both
manufacturers. However, Full Spectrum Laser’s equipment is still
relatively inexpensive. For instance, a H series 20” x 12” with all the
upgrades (90 watt, extra lens, extra warranty, etc) is still only around $12,000
+ HST.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>As to troubleshooting the Zing 24, I did a full cleaning and mechanical
check of the device earlier this summer. I am still waiting for a reply
from Epilog, but it appears that the problem could be either with the sensor
board, a cable from the sensor board or the main control board.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Stephen Burke</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="henri.kuschkowitz@gmail.com" href="mailto:henri.kuschkowitz@gmail.com" target="_blank">Henri Kuschkowitz</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 28, 2015 11:55 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="darcy@inventorartist.com" href="mailto:darcy@inventorartist.com" target="_blank">Darcy Whyte</a> ; <a title="andrew.szeto@outlook.com" href="mailto:andrew.szeto@outlook.com" target="_blank">Andrew
Szeto</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="lab@artengine.ca" href="mailto:lab@artengine.ca" target="_blank">lab@artengine.ca</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lab] cheap laser cutters</div></div></div>
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<div>Ditto what Darcy said.</div>
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<div>I used the laser 2-3 weeks ago and the focus was fine. Just the whole
coordinated issue was still there.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Do we have a reference for all the troubleshooting that has been done up
tot this point somewhere? Mind you, I am aware of the wiki page with the
temerity solution.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Cheers,<br>
<div>Henri Kuschkowitz</div>
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<div>On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 7:58 AM -0700, "Darcy Whyte"
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:darcy@inventorartist.com" target="_blank">darcy@inventorartist.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Don't disassemble... there are a lot of problems because of
people taking it apart...</div>
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<div>On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Andrew Szeto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew.szeto@outlook.com" target="_blank">andrew.szeto@outlook.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">I usually try and clean the optics as best as possible with the
q-tips and solution, but that may just be the tip of the issue i'm guessing.
should we be trying to take the lenses apart?<br><br> <br><br><br>
<div>
<hr>
From: <a href="mailto:darcy@inventorartist.com" target="_blank">darcy@inventorartist.com</a><br>Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015
10:48:59 -0400<span><br>Subject: Re: [Lab] cheap laser cutters<br></span>To:
<a href="mailto:andrew.szeto@outlook.com" target="_blank">andrew.szeto@outlook.com</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:tom.i.burns@gmail.com" target="_blank">tom.i.burns@gmail.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:lab@artengine.ca" target="_blank">lab@artengine.ca</a>
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<div dir="ltr">Are the optics clean? Are the optics undamaged?
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<div>Darcy Whyte</div>
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text)</div></div></div>
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<div>On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Andrew Szeto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew.szeto@outlook.com" target="_blank">andrew.szeto@outlook.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hey Guys!<br><br>Soo maybe a bit late on this one, but anyone
know why or have a fix for the out of focus printing at m76? I was
considering those full spectrum hobby lasers, but they are pretty damn
pricey with the exchange rates these days...
<div> </div>
<div>Thanks!<br>A<br><br> <br><br><br>
<div>
<hr>
From: <a href="mailto:darcy@inventorartist.com" target="_blank">darcy@inventorartist.com</a><br>Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015
11:16:24 -0400<br>To: <a href="mailto:tom.i.burns@gmail.com" target="_blank">tom.i.burns@gmail.com</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:lab@artengine.ca" target="_blank">lab@artengine.ca</a><span><br>Subject: Re: [Lab] cheap laser
cutters<br><br></span>
<div>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">One thing to consider is the purpose of the purchase. Is it
for a specific project? Is it just for fun?
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<div>Darcy Whyte</div>
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<div>On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Tom Burns <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tom.i.burns@gmail.com" target="_blank">tom.i.burns@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,
<div> </div>
<div>Does anyone have experience with these cheap chinese laser
cutters?</div>
<div> </div>
<div><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/40W-CO2-USB-Laser-Engraving-Cutting-Machine-Engraver-Cutter-woodworking-Crafts-/121734293301" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/40W-CO2-USB-Laser-Engraving-Cutting-Machine-Engraver-Cutter-woodworking-Crafts-/121734293301</a><br></div>
<div> </div>
<div>Interested in your experience, what you cut, how did it go. I
had no clue these were available under $500.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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