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    We are talking about 250-300W of resistive load here so standard
    dimmer should do just fine.<br>
    <br>
    Roman<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/8/2013 11:10 AM, Richard Sloan
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote
cite="mid:CADh_Q82PdsUdbNNX_x7pxz2ap0zMQ5GafwLGUOTAbFwxqw2tPQ@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
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        <div>Just need a high power dimmer as the cheap dimmers are
          300-500W<br>
          <br>
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        Richard.<br>
        <br>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Roman
          Gargulak <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:roman@cncwings.com" target="_blank">roman@cncwings.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Henri,<br>
              <br>
              The dimmer switch is a crude idea for this kind of
              regulation, but it may work, you will need to try it. It
              worked for me when I needed to cut 6ft long wing halves on
              my cutter.<br>
              I would strongly advise against using dimmer switch
              directly, without isolation transformer as you will be
              dealing with mains voltage and can electrocute yourself.<br>
              Your 5V transformer will not work unfortunately with 8ft
              of wire, it will not provide not enough voltage to push
              required current through.<br>
              <br>
              1000°C sounds rather high, I think nichrome wire should
              not be used above 800°C-900°C. If it is that hot (1000°C)
              it may break easily.<br>
              You will need close to 50V (that's dangerous level
              already), I have a 1:2 step down transformer with a dimmer
              switch that you can borrow if you want.<br>
              Also, I have plenty of 0.009" stainless steel wire, but I
              am not sure if it can sustain that high temperature
              without breaking, on top of it, it's resistance is higher
              than nichrome (about 10ohms/ft) so you will need really
              high voltage to heat up 8 feet of it.<br>
              <br>
              In my opinion, your best bet is a guitar string (G), maybe
              run two in parallel to reduce resistance.<span
                class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
                  <br>
                  Roman</font></span>
              <div>
                <div class="h5"><br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <div>On 7/7/2013 12:52 PM, Henri Kuschkowitz wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite"> Hey guys,
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>It might be good to clarify what I want/need.
                      After some more research I think I also have a
                      better understanding in general of my
                      requirements. I (will) have various cuts of
                      acrylic, max 7' long, 1/8" thick that I need to
                      bend at a straight angle. As such I require evenly
                      distributed temperature. I similar idea to Roman's
                      foam cutter is probably to closest example. Just
                      to be sure, I am trying to have a setup with a max
                      1000deg C heat wire. The video I posted earlier
                      seems to do the trick easily if i use 22 gauge
                      Nichrome wire across 8ft and just a dimmer switch
                      for 110V and 15Amps (12Amps). I do have access to
                      a 5V 60Amp transformer,  but with my limited skill
                      set I am worried about breaking it. Could someone
                      give me some pointers how I would calculate if I
                      can reach the temperature I am looking for?</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>I have used the formula on <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.heatersplus.com/nichrome.html"
                        target="_blank">this</a> page to get some
                      details about what I would need for my setup and
                      am currently looking through some more. I am
                      trying to see if I can use the "G" string idea
                      Roman pointed out since Nichrome wire is nowhere
                      to be found in the area and shipping will take a
                      bit too long for my taste.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Cheers all,</div>
                    <div>Henri</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                      <div>
                        <div>On 2013-07-04, at 10:36 PM, Roman Gargulak
                          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:roman@cncwings.com"
                            target="_blank">roman@cncwings.com</a>>
                          wrote:</div>
                        <br>
                        <blockquote type="cite">
                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I do
                            not think that particular PID controller
                            will work with this application as it is not
                            meant for fast switching, it is meant for
                            relatively slow processes.<br>
                            The wire itself has very little mass so slow
                            switching will not work as wire will cool
                            off quickly.<br>
                            You really do not need closed loop with
                            feedback for this, the variac is good
                            solution but maybe a bit overkill, if your
                            heated wire is only 3-4 feet long.<br>
                            <br>
                            On my CNC foam cutter I use 0.009" wire
                            which has quite high resistance and I need
                            only about 18-20V to heat it up.<br>
                            With 20AWG wire (which has over 0.030"
                            diameter) you will need lower voltage and
                            higher amperage, which variac will provide,
                            just be cautious and treat it as mains as
                            someone wisely pointed out already.<br>
                            <br>
                            If you can not find wire, you can always use
                            steel guitar strings, "e" string is 0.009",
                            "G" string is 0.016" (talking about guitar G
                            string here, just to be clear ;-) )<br>
                            If you can not find variac, you can always
                            try to use regular step down transformer and
                            dimmer switch on the primary side.<br>
                            Or since you will need low voltage, you can
                            try just regular bench top power supply.<br>
                            <br>
                            Roman<br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <div>On 7/4/2013 4:25 PM, Michael Grant
                              wrote:<br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote type="cite">That power supply is
                              also known as an autotransformer.<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autotransformer"
                                target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autotransformer</a><br>
                              <br>
                              Care should be taken with an
                              autotransformer, while the voltage can be
                              set low, there is no, none, zero galvanic
                              isolation.<br>
                              Meaning the full current of the service is
                              available (20amps). Treat the output as
                              you would treat 120VAC direct from a
                              receptacle...<br>
                              <br>
                              I've never seen one in the lab, but they
                              do have a variable  DC supply that is
                              maybe 3amps and 30v max.<br>
                              Depending on the load, the heating
                              element, you might be able to use one of
                              those twisty things for lights...<br>
                              Alternatively, an AC thermostat for bang
                              bang control with hysteria should also
                              work if you keep the thermal loop tight.<br>
                              <br>
                              The last and best option would be a ~$14
                              PID controller from ebay, that would give
                              the best thermal regulation. <br>
                              Sometimes they come in a kit with an SSR
                              (solid state relay) and a thermocouple for
                              a little more dough...<br>
                              Here's one kit for $24...<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100-240V-Digital-PID-Temperature-Controller-max-40A-SSR-K-Thermocouple-Probe-/290825156892?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b687b91c"
                                target="_blank">http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100-240V-Digital-PID-Temperature-Controller-max-40A-SSR-K-Thermocouple-Probe-/290825156892?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b687b91c</a><br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              Michael<br>
                              --<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://krazatchu.ca/"
                                target="_blank">http://krazatchu.ca/</a><br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 4,
                                2013 at 4:07 PM, Henri Kuschkowitz <span
                                  dir="ltr"><<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:henri.kuschkowitz@gmail.com"
                                    target="_blank">henri.kuschkowitz@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                wrote:<br>
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                                  <div style="word-wrap:break-word">So,
                                    I am still getting some more costs
                                    tomorrow, but I think I might go
                                    with this quick/dirty setup: <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVEf7PfuKxo"
                                      target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVEf7PfuKxo</a> 
                                    <div> <br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>What do you guys think? This
                                      leads me to my next question,
                                      would anybody know if the lab has
                                      an item similar to this:
                                      <div>
                                        <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.temcoindustrialpower.com/products/Variable_Transformers/TVT001.html?utm_source=temcotransformer.com&utm_medium=Banner+Ad&utm_campaign=Variac+TVT001"
                                            target="_blank">http://www.temcoindustrialpower.com/products/Variable_Transformers/TVT001.html?utm_source=temcotransformer.com&utm_medium=Banner%2BAd&utm_campaign=Variac%2BTVT001</a></div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Cheers all,</div>
                                        <div>Henri</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>On 2013-07-04, at 7:54
                                              AM, Alex <<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:alexbarbour@bell.net"
                                                target="_blank">alexbarbour@bell.net</a>>


                                              wrote:</div>
                                            <br>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <div dir="auto"
                                                bgcolor="#ffffff">
                                                <div><font face="Arial">Henri</font></div>
                                                <div> </div>
                                                <div><font face="Arial">Angle
                                                    iron is a common
                                                    name applied to
                                                    steel angles. some
                                                    are extruded in the
                                                    heavier sections and
                                                    have a sharp outside
                                                    corner.</font></div>
                                                <div> </div>
                                                <div><font face="Arial">Some
                                                    are bent from flat
                                                    stock and have a
                                                    radiused corner.</font></div>
                                                <div><font face="Arial">These
                                                    are better for use
                                                    as formers for
                                                    plastics.</font></div>
                                                <div> </div>
                                                <div><font face="Arial">Home
                                                    depot. Hardware
                                                    dept.</font></div>
                                                <div><font face="Arial">CTC
                                                    ect.</font></div>
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                                                  <div style="FONT:10pt
                                                    arial">-----
                                                    Original Message
                                                    ----- </div>
                                                  <div style="FONT:10pt
arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                      title="henri.kuschkowitz@gmail.com"
href="mailto:henri.kuschkowitz@gmail.com" target="_blank">Henri
                                                      Kuschkowitz</a> </div>
                                                  <div style="FONT:10pt
                                                    arial"><b>To:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" title="alexbarbour@bell.net"
                                                      href="mailto:alexbarbour@bell.net"
                                                      target="_blank">Alex</a>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div style="FONT:10pt
                                                    arial"><b>Sent:</b>
                                                    Wednesday, July 03,
                                                    2013 9:12 AM</div>
                                                  <div style="FONT:10pt
                                                    arial"><b>Subject:</b>
                                                    Re: [Lab] Plastic
                                                    Bending Strips</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Hey Alex,</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>I have a very
                                                    particular type of
                                                    acrylic we are going
                                                    to be using that I
                                                    doubt comes
                                                    'bendable'. Angle
                                                    iron? I haven't seen
                                                    those before. Got a
                                                    reference or
                                                    suggestion?</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Cheers,<br>
                                                    Henri</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                    On 2013-07-03, at
                                                    8:03, Alex <<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:alexbarbour@bell.net" target="_blank">alexbarbour@bell.net</a>>



                                                    wrote:<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <blockquote
                                                    type="cite">
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div><font
                                                          face="Arial">On
                                                          the other hand
                                                          they do
                                                          produce an
                                                          acrylic sheet
                                                          that can be
                                                          bent cold .</font></div>
                                                      <div><font
                                                          face="Arial">Have

                                                          done small
                                                          pieces by
                                                          hand. For
                                                          larger OR
                                                          thicker ( say
                                                          1/8 inch +
                                                          )one needs a
                                                          former for the
                                                          edge. Angle
                                                          iron with a
                                                          round egde
                                                          serves well.</font></div>
                                                      <div><font
                                                          face="Arial">Alex
                                                          B</font></div>
                                                      <blockquote
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="FONT:10pt
                                                          arial">-----
                                                          Original
                                                          Message -----
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="FONT:10pt
arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          title="henri.kuschkowitz@gmail.com"
href="mailto:henri.kuschkowitz@gmail.com" target="_blank">Henri
                                                          Kuschkowitz</a>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="FONT:10pt
                                                          arial"><b>To:</b>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
title="lab@artengine.ca" href="mailto:lab@artengine.ca" target="_blank">lab</a>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="FONT:10pt
                                                          arial"><b>Sent:</b>
                                                          Tuesday, July
                                                          02, 2013 3:09
                                                          PM</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="FONT:10pt
                                                          arial"><b>Subject:</b>
                                                          [Lab] Plastic
                                                          Bending Strips</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Hey guys,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I figured
                                                          it's a good
                                                          time to start
                                                          asking the
                                                          collective for
                                                          some feedback.
                                                          We are planing
                                                          on bending
                                                          larger sheets
                                                          of acrylic
                                                          (they will
                                                          definitely not
                                                          fit into the
                                                          laser cutter)
                                                          and I am
                                                          looking at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.briskheat.com/p-152-rh-plastic-bending-strip-heater.aspx"
target="_blank">bending strip heaters</a> to build a custom heating
                                                          element for
                                                          our purposes.
                                                          Before I go
                                                          ahead ordering
                                                          the pieces I
                                                          was wondering
                                                          if anyone had
                                                          ever used such
                                                          a thing and/or
                                                          knows of a
                                                          good local
                                                          source? For
                                                          saving some
                                                          money, I
                                                          wonder if
                                                          reusing a
                                                          baseboard
                                                          heater could
                                                          do the trick
                                                          :P</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Cheers
                                                          all,</div>
                                                          <div>Henri<span
style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
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Lab mailing list
1. subscribe <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/lab" target="_blank">http://artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/lab</a>
2. then email <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Lab@artengine.ca" target="_blank">Lab@artengine.ca</a></pre>
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                          Lab mailing list<br>
                          1. subscribe <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/lab"
                            target="_blank">http://artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/lab</a><br>
                          2. then email <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:Lab@artengine.ca"
                            target="_blank">Lab@artengine.ca</a></blockquote>
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            _______________________________________________<br>
            Lab mailing list<br>
            1. subscribe <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/lab"
              target="_blank">http://artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/lab</a><br>
            2. then email <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:Lab@artengine.ca">Lab@artengine.ca</a><br>
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