Yeah sorry, not thinking today lol... Still a little tired.<div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>- Paul<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Richard Guy Briggs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rgb@tricolour.net">rgb@tricolour.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 04:56:03PM -0400, Paul & Andrea Mumby wrote:<br>
> They are diodes. You just give them constant voltage like an LED. Mind you<br>
> some need to be pulsed instead of constant.<br>
<br>
</div>Constant current, I hope you meant? That is what the driver you've<br>
listed does.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
> Here are some ebay links:<br>
> <a href="http://www.ebay.ca/itm/LOT-5-808nm-high-power-burning-laser-diode-1-watt-/170681506053?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bd691905" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.ca/itm/LOT-5-808nm-high-power-burning-laser-diode-1-watt-/170681506053?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bd691905</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.ebay.ca/itm/808nm-1000-mw-high-power-burning-laser-diode-1-watt-/180709833539?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a13253b43" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.ca/itm/808nm-1000-mw-high-power-burning-laser-diode-1-watt-/180709833539?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a13253b43</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.ebay.ca/itm/50-808nm-1W-BLUE-DPSS-HIGH-POWER-BURNING-LASER-DIODE-/230664842498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b4b22d02" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.ca/itm/50-808nm-1W-BLUE-DPSS-HIGH-POWER-BURNING-LASER-DIODE-/230664842498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b4b22d02</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.ebay.ca/itm/50-808nm-1W-YAG-IR-DPSS-HIGH-POWER-BURNING-LASER-DIODE-/230664835850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b4b2130a" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.ca/itm/50-808nm-1W-YAG-IR-DPSS-HIGH-POWER-BURNING-LASER-DIODE-/230664835850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b4b2130a</a><br>
><br>
> This one is a driver:<br>
> <a href="http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1-Laser-Diode-Drivers-405nm-445nm-burning-808nm-650nm-/120767948391?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1e54a667" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1-Laser-Diode-Drivers-405nm-445nm-burning-808nm-650nm-/120767948391?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1e54a667</a><br>
><br>
> Also to note you need to cool these diodes with something (normally they get<br>
> mounted into an aluminum laser body, or into an aluminum heatsink to keep<br>
> them cool)<br>
><br>
> They are only 1W so enough to burn paper, burn wood, or light small fires,<br>
> but to an insect I suspect it would be devastating (especially if you could<br>
> hit it with a bunch at once).<br>
><br>
> - Paul<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Darcy Whyte <<a href="mailto:darcy@siteware.com">darcy@siteware.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > I can't seem to find those lasers on ebay. Dont I need to build a power<br>
> > supply to drive those?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Paul & Andrea Mumby <<a href="mailto:themumbys@gmail.com">themumbys@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Ooh, after hearing Aaron's suggestion about a laser (in the ultrasonic<br>
> >> sensor thread). Why not use some cheap 1W laser diodes off ebay, make an<br>
> >> arrangement that covers the opening so they have to fly through the beam.<br>
> >> Would allow them to pass through unlike a mesh/screen and might be easier to<br>
> >> catch them with (plus will allow the dead to fall out easier since no<br>
> >> physical mesh there). Might need a few diodes but you can get like 50 packs<br>
> >> for $20 on ebay from china lol...<br>
> >><br>
> >> It can be your anti-wasp-laser-defense-sysem ;)<br>
> >><br>
> >> - Paul<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Tom Burns <<a href="mailto:tom.i.burns@gmail.com">tom.i.burns@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >>> I would probably swap out the batteries for a DC connection to a wall<br>
> >>> wart, but you may want to monitor the wall wart's temperature.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Darcy Whyte <<a href="mailto:darcy@siteware.com">darcy@siteware.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> You mean just tape the on button and put it near the entrance? I wonder<br>
> >>>> how far that would go on one set of batteries?<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Tom Burns <<a href="mailto:tom.i.burns@gmail.com">tom.i.burns@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>>> Instead of a full DIY what about those $10 "tennis racket"-esque<br>
> >>>>> electric mosquito killers? They might not be strong enough to kill bees but<br>
> >>>>> maybe just a capacitor change would be sufficient...<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Darcy Whyte <<a href="mailto:darcy@siteware.com">darcy@siteware.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> >>>>><br>
> >>>>>> Well the beez or going into the ceiling. So I figured putting a mesh<br>
> >>>>>> across their entrance would work. If I zap them on the way up but not down<br>
> >>>>>> then the'd just fall from there.<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, mike Jans <<a href="mailto:mjans@live.com">mjans@live.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Make sure your design allows for the dead to fall down and not clog<br>
> >>>>>>> the mesh. From my experience with bees, when something gets in close to<br>
> >>>>>>> their front door, they'll investigate immediately. From the traffic in the<br>
> >>>>>>> video, that might become an issue. Perhaps make it adjustable. In the<br>
> >>>>>>> beginning, you might sacrifice some kills for smooth operation. Later, you<br>
> >>>>>>> adjust for a more thorough deathrate.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> ------------------------------<br>
> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:42:24 -0400<br>
> >>>>>>> From: <a href="mailto:krazatchu@hotmail.com">krazatchu@hotmail.com</a><br>
> >>>>>>> To: <a href="mailto:lab@artengine.ca">lab@artengine.ca</a><br>
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Lab] yellow jackets and electricity<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> You don't need to detect them at all...<br>
> >>>>>>> Just use two parallel meshes at a distance of about 3/4 the length of<br>
> >>>>>>> a yellow jacket...<br>
> >>>>>>> With opposing charges on the meshes, the yellow jackets become the<br>
> >>>>>>> trigger...<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> This is not uncommon in Korea for mosquitoes...<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Koolatron-Lentek-Biteshield-RZ02-Electronic/dp/B000H7CUSQ" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Koolatron-Lentek-Biteshield-RZ02-Electronic/dp/B000H7CUSQ</a><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> And be careful with camera flashes, they can really hurt (and<br>
> >>>>>>> kill)...<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Michael<br>
> >>>>>>> <a href="http://NoMiDesign.net/" target="_blank">http://NoMiDesign.net/</a><br>
> >>>>>>> <a href="http://krazatchu.ca/" target="_blank">http://krazatchu.ca/</a><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> On 8/29/2011 11:31 AM, Darcy Whyte wrote:<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> I don't think the Squirrels are reading my blog so we should be okay.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> I've already got some parts on order (including a disposable camera<br>
> >>>>>>> to get a zapper out).<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> I'm a little concerned about how I will detect when they are in<br>
> >>>>>>> contact with the mesh. Perhaps just a motion detector.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> I just took some video of the little buggers:<br>
> >>>>>>> <a href="http://mambohead.com/2011/08/arduino-bug-zapper-yellow-jacket-removal/" target="_blank">http://mambohead.com/2011/08/arduino-bug-zapper-yellow-jacket-removal/</a><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> As you can see, they're going up a hole in the ceiling.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> The chemical idea might work but can it go uphill into the ceiling?<br>
> >>>>>>> I guess I have to seal the hole after I get rid of them.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Tom Burns <<a href="mailto:tom.i.burns@gmail.com">tom.i.burns@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> An Arduino-powered stun gun is not something I would want to fall<br>
> >>>>>>> into the hands of a species as devious as the squirrels ;)<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> If it's not high powered enough, and you're not against using<br>
> >>>>>>> chemicals, I dealt with a nasty bee (my fiancee is allergic) problem in my<br>
> >>>>>>> backyard using Raid "One Shot" wasp killer.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Tom<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Darcy Whyte <<a href="mailto:darcy@siteware.com">darcy@siteware.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Hi Richard,<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Thanks for the note.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> I figured keeping a coil charged might be expensive on the<br>
> >>>>>>> batteries. Seems the next place to go is keeping a capacitor charged. As I<br>
> >>>>>>> mentioned in the blog post, a disposable camera may have enough hardware to<br>
> >>>>>>> do this. May not be as high a voltage but it might work.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> So it just comes down to triggering the high voltage thing.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> I'm all ears on how to trigger it but I figured I could just use an<br>
> >>>>>>> arduino because the labor content may be lower. There might be something<br>
> >>>>>>> that can save some pennies but I think for the pain a community of yellow<br>
> >>>>>>> jackets causes, it's okay if it uses an arduino for a couple days.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Even if the Squirrels steal it.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Darcy<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Richard Guy Briggs <<br>
> >>>>>>> <a href="mailto:rgb@tricolour.net">rgb@tricolour.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 01:32:19PM -0700, Darcy Whyte wrote:<br>
> >>>>>>> > What about this angle:<br>
> >>>>>>> ><br>
> >>>>>>> > A motion detector of some sort.<br>
> >>>>>>> > a coil<br>
> >>>>>>> > a relay<br>
> >>>>>>> > a 6v battery<br>
> >>>>>>> > a wire grid over the opening<br>
> >>>>>>> ><br>
> >>>>>>> > When a yellow jacket is detected we charge the coil and then let it<br>
> >>>>>>> > discharge through the grid.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> I think the idea is to keep it charged so that it does its work on<br>
> >>>>>>> contact.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> > The relay is to isolate an arduino from the coil charging action...<br>
> >>>>>>> ><br>
> >>>>>>> > What sort of coil would I need?<br>
> >>>>>>> ><br>
> >>>>>>> > If this will work at all....<br>
> >>>>>>> ><br>
> >>>>>>> > Also, what about detecting the bug when it touches the grid? I<br>
> >>>>>>> suppose the<br>
> >>>>>>> > problem with that is I'd need to isolate it from the arduino<br>
> >>>>>>> somehow since<br>
> >>>>>>> > the high voltage will zap the arduino too....<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> Does it really need an arduino, or just a wired power supply and a<br>
> >>>>>>> way<br>
> >>>>>>> of forcing all entering and exiting wasps of touching the charged<br>
> >>>>>>> wires?<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Darcy Whyte <<a href="mailto:darcy@siteware.com">darcy@siteware.com</a>><br>
> >>>>>>> wrote:<br>
> >>>>>>> > > Perhaps this can be DIYed:<br>
> >>>>>>> > > <a href="http://www.bugspray.com/catalog/products/page1421.html" target="_blank">http://www.bugspray.com/catalog/products/page1421.html</a><br>
> >>>>>>> > ><br>
> >>>>>>> > > I could then just hang the thing near the hole and place some<br>
> >>>>>>> electrodes<br>
> >>>>>>> > > right there.<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> I've seen one of those at a friend's cottage. It is only $10, so it<br>
> >>>>>>> might be worth just buying one to find out how it works and adapt it<br>
> >>>>>>> for<br>
> >>>>>>> automatic use with your wasp nest. We had one in the floor of our<br>
> >>>>>>> balcony. It was a nuisance...<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> You might want to adapt it with very fine wires brushing around the<br>
> >>>>>>> hole<br>
> >>>>>>> (but if the wire is too fine, it might fuse instead of delivering the<br>
> >>>>>>> intended shock to an insect...)<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Darcy Whyte <<br>
> >>>>>>> <a href="mailto:darcy@siteware.com">darcy@siteware.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >>>>>>> > >> Let's say I have a nasty yellow jacket nest that's starting to<br>
> >>>>>>> cause<br>
> >>>>>>> > >> problems.<br>
> >>>>>>> > >><br>
> >>>>>>> > >> I've dealt with these in the past when the next is very exposed<br>
> >>>>>>> but this<br>
> >>>>>>> > >> time I only have access to an opening about an inch where they<br>
> >>>>>>> are coming<br>
> >>>>>>> > >> and going.<br>
> >>>>>>> > >><br>
> >>>>>>> > >> Has anybody ever tried to put some sort of zapper near an<br>
> >>>>>>> entrance? Seems<br>
> >>>>>>> > >> that should be an easy way to get them.<br>
> >>>>>>> > >><br>
> >>>>>>> > >> A trap seems to take long because they only go into it once in a<br>
> >>>>>>> while so<br>
> >>>>>>> > >> it takes a long while.<br>
> >>>>>>> > >><br>
> >>>>>>> > >> I figure if I put a couple of electrodes near the hole, they<br>
> >>>>>>> could<br>
> >>>>>>> > >> complete the gap.<br>
> >>>>>>> > >><br>
> >>>>>>> > >> If this would work, I wonder how many bugs a couple of D-cells<br>
> >>>>>>> could zap?<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>><br>
> >>>>>>> slainte mhath, RGB<br>
> >>>>>>><br>
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