Thanks for the info Michael. Makes sense it'd be pretty hard. It's also possible that the thing will route fine enough for some surface mount components?<br><br>Not sure about the software Jean-Marc, I'd suggest asking the creators both questions.<br>
<br>Cheers,<br>Tom<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:15 PM, krazatchu . <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:krazatchu@hotmail.com">krazatchu@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<font style="font-size: 10pt;" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Etching first with toner transfer and drilling after with NC file doesn't work well...<br>
The laser print for toner transfer isn't very accurate, I made up a test
page and tried a few different printers to the same effect...<br>
Most had non-linear in-accuracy... <br>
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Michael</span></font><br><br>> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 13:14:16 -0500<br>> From: <a href="mailto:jeanmarc.leblanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeanmarc.leblanc@gmail.com</a><br>> To: <a href="mailto:tom.i.burns@gmail.com" target="_blank">tom.i.burns@gmail.com</a><br>
> CC: <a href="mailto:lab@artengine.ca" target="_blank">lab@artengine.ca</a><div class="im"><br>> Subject: Re: [Lab] Makerbot and PCB fabrication<br>> <br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">> sorry for asking like 2000 questions lol but I am thinking of building<br>
> I hate drilling the holes lol. Do you know what software they are<br>> using?<br>> <br>> Jean-Marc Le Blanc<br>> ---<br>> <br>> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and<br>
> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Tom Burns <<a href="mailto:tom.i.burns@gmail.com" target="_blank">tom.i.burns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > Yes, the 9.1 or as close to it as those resources will get us.<br>> ><br>> > Tom<br>> ><br>> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc<br>> > <<a href="mailto:jeanmarc.leblanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeanmarc.leblanc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >><br>> >> is the mantis the one you are building?<br>> >><br>> >> Jean-Marc Le Blanc<br>> >> ---<br>> >><br>> >> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and<br>
> >> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Tom Burns <<a href="mailto:tom.i.burns@gmail.com" target="_blank">tom.i.burns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> > BOM: <a href="http://makeyourbot.org/local--files/mantis9-1/bom-9.xls" target="_blank">http://makeyourbot.org/local--files/mantis9-1/bom-9.xls</a><br>> >> > DXF (haven't opened this but I'm assuming it's the design file for all<br>
> >> > wood<br>> >> > parts):<br>> >> > <a href="http://makeyourbot.wdfiles.com/local--files/mantis9-1/mantis9.1.dxf" target="_blank">http://makeyourbot.wdfiles.com/local--files/mantis9-1/mantis9.1.dxf</a><br>
> >> > video series on how to build it: <a href="http://makeyourbot.org/mantis9-build" target="_blank">http://makeyourbot.org/mantis9-build</a><br>> >> ><br>> >> > Tom<br>> >> ><br>
> >> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc<br>> >> > <<a href="mailto:jeanmarc.leblanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeanmarc.leblanc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> >> >><br>
> >> >> yeah I think that is more what I would do.<br>> >> >> does he have a right up on how he made it? the little motor is it a<br>> >> >> drill motor or one that you find in RC cars?<br>
> >> >><br>> >> >> Jean-Marc Le Blanc<br>> >> >> ---<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and<br>
> >> >> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds<br>> >> >><br>> >> >><br>> >> >><br>> >> >><br>> >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Tom Burns <<a href="mailto:tom.i.burns@gmail.com" target="_blank">tom.i.burns@gmail.com</a>><br>
> >> >> wrote:<br>> >> >> > No idea. You'd have to ask the creators. You could always etch the<br>> >> >> > boards<br>> >> >> > with a resist-ink method and drill the holes with the bot afterwards,<br>
> >> >> > but<br>> >> >> > you'd obviously have to take care to align it properly. Maybe drill<br>> >> >> > the<br>> >> >> > holes first then line up the transfer with the holes?<br>
> >> >> ><br>> >> >> > For <$100 I don't expect this CNC to do everything but it's a huge<br>> >> >> > step<br>> >> >> > forward from not having one at all.<br>
> >> >> ><br>> >> >> > Tom<br>> >> >> ><br>> >> >> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc<br>> >> >> > <<a href="mailto:jeanmarc.leblanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeanmarc.leblanc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> think that would be precise enough to make traces for surface mount?<br>> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> Jean-Marc Le Blanc<br>
> >> >> >> ---<br>> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and<br>> >> >> >> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds<br>
> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Tom Burns <<a href="mailto:tom.i.burns@gmail.com" target="_blank">tom.i.burns@gmail.com</a>><br>
> >> >> >> wrote:<br>> >> >> >> > Yup!<br>> >> >> >> > <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlDpZl-QIAA&feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlDpZl-QIAA&feature=player_embedded</a><br>
> >> >> >> ><br>> >> >> >> > Tom<br>> >> >> >> ><br>> >> >> >> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc<br>> >> >> >> > <<a href="mailto:jeanmarc.leblanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeanmarc.leblanc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> >> Does this actualy make the traces too?<br>> >> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> >> Jean-Marc Le Blanc<br>
> >> >> >> >> ---<br>> >> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> >> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men<br>> >> >> >> >> and<br>
> >> >> >> >> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds<br>> >> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Tom Burns <<a href="mailto:tom.i.burns@gmail.com" target="_blank">tom.i.burns@gmail.com</a>><br>> >> >> >> >> wrote:<br>
> >> >> >> >> > PCB fabrication is why I'm gathering people interested in<br>> >> >> >> >> > building<br>> >> >> >> >> > a<br>
> >> >> >> >> > very<br>
> >> >> >> >> > small, cheap CNC. For under $100 you can get all the parts to<br>> >> >> >> >> > build<br>> >> >> >> >> > it.<br>
> >> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> >> > Read more here:<br>> >> >> >> >> ><br>> >> >> >> >> > <a href="http://makeyourbot.org/mantis9-1" target="_blank">http://makeyourbot.org/mantis9-1</a><br>
> >> >> >> >> ><br>> >> >> >> >> > Currently the plan is to begin ordering parts as of January.<br>> >> >> >> >> > If<br>> >> >> >> >> > you<br>
> >> >> >> >> > want to<br>> >> >> >> >> > buy the parts let me know and I'll contact you when we're ready<br>> >> >> >> >> > to<br>
> >> >> >> >> > place<br>> >> >> >> >> > an<br>> >> >> >> >> > order. Many of the parts in the BOM only have McMaster<br>> >> >> >> >> > references<br>
> >> >> >> >> > so<br>> >> >> >> >> > the<br>> >> >> >> >> > current plan is to ship them to NY and pick them up at the UPS<br>> >> >> >> >> > store<br>
> >> >> >> >> > (as<br>> >> >> >> >> > mentioned on list previously).<br>> >> >> >> >> ><br>> >> >> >> >> > Cheers,<br>
> >> >> >> >> > Tom<br>> >> >> >> >> ><br>> >> >> >> >> ><br>> >> >> >> >> ><br>> >> >> >> >> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Andrew Plumb <<a href="mailto:andrew@plumb.org" target="_blank">andrew@plumb.org</a>><br>
> >> >> >> >> > wrote:<br>> >> >> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> >> >> It can be done (see <a href="http://wiki.makerbot.com/makerbot-mill" target="_blank">http://wiki.makerbot.com/makerbot-mill</a>),<br>
> >> >> >> >> >> but<br>> >> >> >> >> >> you'll<br>> >> >> >> >> >> need to use some sort of sacrificial layer and a solid steel<br>
> >> >> >> >> >> plate<br>> >> >> >> >> >> underneath so you don't destroy the XY platform.<br>> >> >> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> >> >> Andrew.<br>
> >> >> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> >> >> On 2010-11-09, at 9:19 AM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc wrote:<br>> >> >> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> >> >> > Hey guys,<br>
> >> >> >> >> >> > I am getting annoyed with drilling my holes in my pcb boards<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > and<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > and<br>
> >> >> >> >> >> > tining them. I was wondering if some one knew if this could<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > be<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > done<br>
> >> >> >> >> >> > with the maker bot? If the maker bot follows standard CNC<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > commands<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > this would not be too hard I suppose to program. I think It<br>
> >> >> >> >> >> > was<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > Andrew who said he put a dremel head on his maker bot. As<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > for<br>
> >> >> >> >> >> > tining,<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > maybe put a hot plate on the base and melt some tin on the<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > base?<br>
> >> >> >> >> >> > the<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > tining is not too important thought. I don't usually do that<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > step<br>
> >> >> >> >> >> > since its long and I don't find it worth it. Maybe an<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > alternative?<br>> >> >> >> >> >> ><br>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Jean-Marc Le Blanc<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > ---<br>> >> >> >> >> >> ><br>> >> >> >> >> >> > "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were<br>
> >> >> >> >> >> > men<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > and<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds<br>
> >> >> >> >> >> ><br>> >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________<br>> >> >> >> >> >> > Lab mailing list<br>
> >> >> >> >> >> > <a href="mailto:Lab@artengine.ca" target="_blank">Lab@artengine.ca</a><br>> >> >> >> >> >> > <a href="http://artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/lab" target="_blank">http://artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/lab</a><br>
> >> >> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> >> >> --<br>> >> >> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> >> >> "The future is already here. It's just not very evenly<br>
> >> >> >> >> >> distributed"<br>> >> >> >> >> >> --<br>> >> >> >> >> >> William Gibson<br>> >> >> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> >> >> Me: <a href="http://clothbot.com/wiki/" target="_blank">http://clothbot.com/wiki/</a><br>> >> >> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> >> >><br>
> >> >> >> >> >><br>> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> >> >> >> >> Lab mailing list<br>
> >> >> >> >> >> <a href="mailto:Lab@artengine.ca" target="_blank">Lab@artengine.ca</a><br>> >> >> >> >> >> <a href="http://artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/lab" target="_blank">http://artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/lab</a><br>
> >> >> >> >> ><br>> >> >> >> >> ><br>> >> >> >> ><br>> >> >> >> ><br>> >> >> ><br>> >> >> ><br>
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