[Lab] Vinyl

Fri Jan 6 19:04:48 EST 2012

I might have mixed this up with the message about cutting the recycle
containers...

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:02 PM, mike Jans <mjans at live.com> wrote:

>  Same as Paul. I grew up in a sign shop, and I worked for Carleton
> University's in house sign shop while I was student there. I don't know
> what else you would refer to as "adhesive vinyl" except the rolls of sign
> grade stuff, what are you talking about? Got any literature on it?
>
> If you're going to go with a reflective vinyl, it is a little heftier than
> regular vinyl, but it can certainly be cut by the standard plotter. It also
> comes a little higher price. A sign shop will probably mark it up
> proportionally, so don't be afraid to look around for a cheaper source. My
> dad used to use ND Graphics, but I don't know if they're still in business.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 18:46:46 -0500
> From: themumbys at gmail.com
> To: darcy at siteware.com
> CC: lab at artengine.ca
> Subject: Re: [Lab] Vinyl
>
> I assumed from "Adhesive Vinyl" that he was talking about standard
> adhesive backed vinyl film, in which case yes they definitely can. If he's
> talking about something else then I have no idea.
>
> I assume he means the standard sign stuff, used in signage, window
> lettering, and vehicle decals. (I worked for a sign shop for a few years
> way back in the day, and also worked IT for a large print/publishing place
> that did signage as well for another 2 years, so I'm fairly familiar with
> the technology).
>
> Typical adhesive backed sign vinyl comes on rolls normally in 6", 12", 24"
> or 48" widths... So you get the roll that fits your machine. The cricut is
> a bit different in that it's not meant to run the vinyl through alone, you
> need to use their cutting surface along with it, but that's not a big deal.
> (and I'm sure it could be easily hacked to do the vinyl straight up). But I
> know the machine does cut standard vinyl, as Michaels sells vinyl rolls for
> it, and I've done vinyl lettering on it.
>
> - Paul
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Darcy Whyte <darcy at siteware.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think the vinyl cutters used for signs can cut the plastic in
> question.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Jason Cobill <jason.cobill at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>    Why buy the cow when you get the milk for cheap? Any respectable Ottawa
> sign shop will have a vinyl cutter on hand, and most of them will cut you a
> huge sheet from a .eps file for < $20.
>    Alternatively, there's a bunch of online places that will cut your
> decals to spec and ship it, for even cheaper. (Search for Vinyl Lettering
> or Sign Lettering)
>    Or - if it's a smallish 1-off design of reasonable complexity and you
> have a steady hand, print your design out on paper as a stencil and
> hand-cut a roll of vinyl using an x-acto (cheapest!). A little patience
> goes a long way - I once saw an amazing final-year typographic
> design-school project entirely hand-cut in an afternoon.
>
>    I totally dig your idea to pimp out your green bin, by the way. :) You
> need some of that 3M reflective vinyl they use on road signs - eyecatching!
> If you template out the measurements of your green bin in a vector program,
> be sure to pass it along, I'd love to come up it a few designs of my own.
>    Also note that vinyl stickers don't wear well exposed to the elements -
> you might want to design using a less-adhesive vinyl for the point a year
> or two down the road when you need to inevitably peel all of it off.
>
>    -Jason Cobill
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:43 PM, mike Jans <mjans at live.com> wrote:
>
>  This company has been making Vinyl cutters for decades now:
>
> http://www.rolanddga.com/products/cutters/
>
> My dad has had the same one in his shop since 1990, very reliable machine,
> but a bit noisy. It wouldn't surprise me if they solved that problem by now
> though.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: mike.ayukawa at gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 15:53:26 -0500
> To: lab at artengine.ca
> Subject: Re: [Lab] Vinyl
>
>
> Need to find one of these:  http://www.corbingraphics.com/cuttersraven.htm
>
> On 2012-01-06, at 3:36 PM, Darcy Whyte wrote:
>
> It might cut on a cnc machine....
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Andrew Plumb <andrew at plumb.org> wrote:
>
> Never! Vinyl is chlorine-based. Chlorine gas is... Bad.
>
> Andrew.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2012-01-06, at 3:00 PM, Michael Lechasseur <mlecha at artengine.ca> wrote:
>
> > Can the laser cutter deal with adhesive vinyl well? I might like to pimp
> my green bin.
> >
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