[Lab] Touch sensitive/reactive windows

Andrew O'Malley aomalley at gmail.com
Fri Apr 29 12:21:46 EDT 2011


You are correct; they love things that go blink!

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc
<jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com> wrote:
> This is at least your third time being featured there is it not?
> http://hackaday.com/2009/11/06/cold-cathode-art-piece-controller/
> http://hackaday.com/2011/02/15/dotklok/
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> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
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> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and
> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
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> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Andrew O'Malley <aomalley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks guys!
>>
>> Have great wknd, all,
>>
>> ao.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Jean-Marc LeBlanc
>> <jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> congrats
>>>
>>> Jean-Marc Le Blanc
>>> ---
>>>
>>> "Do you pine for the nice days of Minix-1.1, when men were men and
>>> wrote their own device drivers?" Linus Torvalds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:03 PM,  <bentfork at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> You're on hackaday!
>>>>
>>>> http://hackaday.com/2011/04/29/the-start-to-finish-of-an-interactive-exhibit/
>>>>
>>>> Congrads!
>>>>
>>>> On 28 April 2011 10:46, Andrew O'Malley <aomalley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all, an update on this touch-sensitive windows project . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> I ended up using the CapSense library for Arduino with a row/column
>>>>> electrode arrangement, thus only needing 11+1 i/o pins for each 5x6
>>>>> array of windows.  Thin wire was used for the electrodes, with a
>>>>> row/column intersection centered on the back of each window.  Despite
>>>>> some noise/interference problems (mostly solved w/ grounding), this
>>>>> solution worked pretty well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Each window was individually illuminated by a Shiftbrite, and the
>>>>> whole thing assembled in a fabricated steel structure.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've written a detailed post about the (on-going) project here:
>>>>> http://technoetc.net/blog/2011/04/27/urbana-2011/
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again for your input and suggestions,
>>>>> ao.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Andrew O'Malley <aomalley at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Thanks for the suggestion.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The other issue I have with an ir+camera solution is that there will
>>>>> > be substructure in the tower which will be holding all the lights
>>>>> > which illuminate the windows, so there will only about a 3 inch margin
>>>>> > between that and the inner walls.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ao.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Mike Baker <mbaker3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> If you're looking at an IR based solution I've been working on a touch
>>>>> >> table
>>>>> >> using IR lasers. They have the advantage of still working quite well in
>>>>> >> sunlight rooms.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Here are the lasers I use and am quite happy with so far:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://aixiz.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=44_27&products_id=67&osCsid=d5b9a3ff99350c797248ca117ed67cfb
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The challenge with your idea would be somehow using a camera to capture
>>>>> >> the
>>>>> >> reflected IR in that small box. I can't think of a solution immediately
>>>>> >> but
>>>>> >> I'll keep on it. Maybe the use of a chrome ball or extreme fish eye
>>>>> >> lens on
>>>>> >> the camera to try and capture all sides of the installation at once.
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Mike Baker
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Andrew Plumb <andrew at plumb.org> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Have a look around for spray-on anti-static ESD coatings.  That might
>>>>> >>> get
>>>>> >>> you the conductivity you need for capacitive sensing over larger
>>>>> >>> surface
>>>>> >>> areas.
>>>>> >>> Andrew.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On 2011-03-14, at 5:13 PM, Andrew O'Malley wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Ouch, too expensive for my budget considering I have 100+ 5" x 7"
>>>>> >>> windows to deal w/.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Thanks for the input everyone, please keep it coming if anything comes
>>>>> >>> to
>>>>> >>> mind.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> So far my most promising results are using capacitive sense wires near
>>>>> >>> the windows; going to do a full-scale mock-up of my interaction
>>>>> >>> surface this week to confirm.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Cheers,
>>>>> >>> ao.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:03 PM,  <bentfork at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I've seen transparent conductive glass used for DIY EL screen
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> printing.  I think they used Indium Tin Oxide, aka ITO Glass.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> The cheapest I could find (in 30 seconds) was
>>>>> >>> http://bayviewoptics.com/id2.html
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> It looks like people have been able to manufacure their own.   I even
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> saw a youtube on  it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTu4KhL7IOE
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> If you find any cheaper let me know ;)
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:47 PM,  <lab-request at artengine.ca> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Message: 8
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:47:21 -0400
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> From: "Andrew O'Malley" <aomalley at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Lab] Touch sensitive/reactive windows
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> To: Jean-Marc LeBlanc <jeanmarc.leblanc at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hi,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Thanks for your ideas/suggestions everyone -- I'm hearing the idea of
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> conductive coatings or conductive plastic a lot, anyone have any leads
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> where I would acquire such things?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Thanks again,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> ao.
>>>>> >>>
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